Thread: So whats so wrong with being able to speak French?

Originally Posted by MickR

You lot could have it worse, we had an Australian born, bi-lingual PM who was voted in by the public, but who was then stabbed in the back by his own party and a Welsh born, monoglot (poor) english only speaking (A Welsh person who doesn't speak a word of Welsh...Pah!), idiot installed with out public vote to take his place. The one thing American might like about her, is that she loves the USA more than she loves Australia. Personally I'd like to see her get a green card and go to the States permanantly, but I wouldn't really like to wish her on anyones country.
The previous PM was far sighted and a long term thinker. No doubt he had his faults, but at least he was looking at a future for the country and not just a 'what can I achieve in the next six years before I get voted out' kind of bloke.


Mick

Streuth Mick! Julia Gillard is a taff! Mind you it kind of makes sense you know, sheep 'an all. Do leeks grow well down under? What about Daffs? Is there anywhere that she can get a pointy hat?

Originally Posted by osdset

Streuth Mick! Julia Gillard is a taff! Mind you it kind of makes sense you know, sheep 'an all. Do leeks grow well down under? What about Daffs? Is there anywhere that she can get a pointy hat?

I'll just ignore all those remarks about my own personal linage on account you may not know of my Welsh background (I suspect ya do ya bugger!) But I will say, those silly bloody English looking Puritan hats they use as part of the relatively recent invention of a national Welsh costume should be bloody well outlawed.


Mick

Originally Posted by MickR

I'll just ignore all those remarks about my own personal linage on account you may not know of my Welsh background (I suspect ya do ya bugger!) But I will say, those silly bloody English looking Puritan hats they use as part of the relatively recent invention of a national Welsh costume should be bloody well outlawed.


Mick

Puritan hats! Your right! I never made that connection, it was probably a devious plot by us to subvert your culture, having said that I did hear that one Lady Llanover popularised the wearing of said costume, but I digress, I still reckon Julia would look fetching sporting one, and there is the added bonus of the hat having plenty of room for a spare shoe

Originally Posted by Crotalus

My biggest problem with this primary is the _mistaken_ assumption that only Romney can beat Obama. I don't agree.

Not true in an absolute sense.
the problem is that in the primary race, the group of contestants quickly gets reduced to 3 or 4 contenders.
In the current primary, there are only 2 contenders left. I don't think Newt has a real chance of winning over a majority of the moderates who make the difference in the presidential elections.

Party line democrats and republicans don't matter in the election. They will vote part line even if the candidate is the gingerbread man.
The outcome is decided by the moderates sitting on the fence. They get to choose between 2 candidates. I don't realistically see them picking Newt Gingrich over Obama.

With Romney, I honestly think he has a shot of winning from Obama in the camp of the moderates who primarily want a stable economy at this point.

Originally Posted by Bruno

In the current primary, there are only 2 contenders left. I don't think Newt has a real chance of winning over a majority of the moderates who make the difference in the presidential elections.

I disagree. I think we need the most conservative candidate we can get. Romney is the least. I think people understand that only a conservative will be able to reverse what Obama has been doing.

Romney on the other hand will be attacked for Romney Care. That is his biggest problem. The Republican establishment and the Democrats want Romney because they know under him it will be business as usual. Business as usual will bring this country down. We will wind up in the same predicament as Europe. I'm not sure that even drastic action can save us from that at this point.

Our debt bill is coming due any time now and the world will dump the dollar.

All these problems are due to the Community Reinvestment Act and the Democrats, but the media is allowing them to get away with it and blame the Repubs.

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Only Ron Paul can defeat ObamaTron!

Originally Posted by Crotalus

I disagree. I think we need the most conservative candidate we can get. Romney is the least. I think people understand that only a conservative will be able to reverse what Obama has been doing..

Then you want Ron Paul.

However, realistically, at this point it will be Gingrich or Romney.
Of the 2, romney so far has the biggest chance of getting elected by the moderates who will decide the outcome.
I suspect that you would vote republican in the general election, no matter what.

that just means that for the outcome, your vote is irrelevant. You belong to a fixed block of voters, and you have your democrat counterparts. They don't matter either. They will vote, and they will vote for their party. The people who decide the final outcome of the general election are the ones who are in the middle and who might vote for a democrat OR a republican, based on which they perceive as the best.

In that regard, Newt has a smaller chance of making it with those people than Romney.
This is also why during the general election, candidates focus on the swing states, while e.g. Texas gets only token attention. Neither party can benefit from campaigning in Texas. In a very real way, the Texan voters don't matter in the campaign. The Texan vote is practically a given.

the ones who determine the outcome are the moderates in the middle.

Originally Posted by Crotalus

We will wind up in the same predicament as Europe. I'm not sure that even drastic action can save us from that at this point.
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There is one difference though. Currently, Europe is motivated enough to make drastic and unpopular changes.

Originally Posted by Bruno

They will vote, and they will vote for their party.

Sometimes you scare me