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    Quote Originally Posted by HNSB View Post
    So individuals are capable of making bad choices, but banks are not?
    Hey, stop hijacking the thread! The liberals in government are the only ones who make bad choices and they should go to jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    The liberals in government are the only ones who make bad choices and they should go to jail.
    I agree!........
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    My wife is a teacher in the Dallas area. She CARES about her job and is growing more frustrated every year. One of her biggest obstacles is No Child Left Behind.

    It's a fine ideal, but in practice its a disaster. Now if a kid is disruptive or flat doesn't care about passing, they are not allowed to get rid of the problem. The most she can do is move them to another school. so the bad kids just get shuffled around. She has retarded or autistic kids mixed in. The retarded and autistic need to be educated if possible, but mixing them in with other kids is stupid. They need special settings and much more time than a teacher has available.

    It's not all the systems fault though. Parents seem to not be involved anymore. When she has perent teacher night she is ecstatic of more than 2 or 3 parents show up. The parents don't seem to care.

    She also has a 20 year old in her class that is a FRESHMAN? WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by MinATX View Post
    I taught high school for five years. I really didn't see that the problem was with any kind of political agenda that forced teachers to teach a certain perspective, liberal or whatever. Paul Simon went to school a long time ago. Teacher nowadays put more emphasis on teaching kids HOW to think, instead of just WHAT to think. We tried our best to teach them skills, and to think critically, be creative and original, to look at issues from multiple points of view, weigh the options and choose the most logical one, then reevaluate.

    The biggest problem was that we didn't get much opportunity to teach like that. We spent most of our time teaching the damn state tests. It's fine to use it to measure progress, but they've make it such high stakes that at most schools, teachers spend most of the spring and part of the fall semester preparing kids for the test. It eats up all the instructional time as well as the funding. It removes the opportunity for real learning from school. The contradictions that teachers face are way too numerous to list here, but I think we've started to educate some of the best teachers ever. However, we've forced those teachers to teach under conditions that undermine their abilities. That goes from the micromanaging regulations that forced us to do literally stacks of paperwork when we could have focused on planning, to the way that our classes were packed with kids who were passed on unprepared, to the parents who didn't give a damn. It's like being on the Titanic, trying to save the ship with just good intentions and a bucket to toss out water.

    And of course, you can teach academic skills, life skills ( including vocational classes) critical thought and responsibility until you are blue in the face; but if the parents are idiots or enablers, then the damage has already been done before the kids even get into school.
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    No Child Left Behind.........you can't shine shit!!!!
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    Hard to blame the parents for not being more involved with their kid's education when it takes at least two full-time jobs just to keep a roof over their heads, food in their bellies and clothes on their backs. They just don't have the time or energy to keep up with it.

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    If you don't have the time or energy to be interested in your kids education, you shouldn't have kids.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kantian Pragmatist View Post
    Hard to blame the parents for not being more involved with their kid's education when it takes at least two full-time jobs just to keep a roof over their heads, food in their bellies and clothes on their backs. They just don't have the time or energy to keep up with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crotalus View Post
    If you don't have the time or energy to be interested in your kids education, you shouldn't have kids.
    That's right, damnit! Only wealthy people should reproduce. And poor people should just starve to death if they can't find a way to feed themselves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantian Pragmatist View Post
    That's right, damnit! Only wealthy people should reproduce. And poor people should just starve to death if they can't find a way to feed themselves!
    Yeah, go ahead and reproduce, ignore your kids, let the state raise them and then give them permanent housing in a state prison.

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    An even more excellent idea! Let's put the poor in prison for being poor! After all, they wouldn't be poor if they'd just follow Crotalus' brand of common sense, right?

    Moralizing is so much fun. It's too bad it doesn't ever accomplish anything or help anybody, and is usually wrong in the first place.

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    I'm telling you reality. Ignore your kids and they wind up with no moral direction and in jail.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kantian Pragmatist View Post
    An even more excellent idea! Let's put the poor in prison for being poor! After all, they wouldn't be poor if they'd just follow Crotalus' brand of common sense, right?

    Moralizing is so much fun. It's too bad it doesn't ever accomplish anything or help anybody, and is usually wrong in the first place.

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