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    I've read the peanut allergy is coming from lotions and other products that contain peanut oil that didn't exist until relatively recently. Having too much of something can potentially make you allergic to it. Gluten is the same way I think, you can develop an allergy to it.

    This whole stink, though, reminds me of the 'USDA says pizza is a vegetable' story from a few months ago. Pizza was never declared a vegetable, but people clung to that version of the story because it fit better with whatever political belief system that they had. I think there's a lot more to this story than just giving a girl chicken nuggets and taking away her sandwich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChesterCopperpot View Post
    I've read the peanut allergy is coming from lotions and other products that contain peanut oil that didn't exist until relatively recently. Having too much of something can potentially make you allergic to it. Gluten is the same way I think, you can develop an allergy to it.

    This whole stink, though, reminds me of the 'USDA says pizza is a vegetable' story from a few months ago. Pizza was never declared a vegetable, but people clung to that version of the story because it fit better with whatever political belief system that they had. I think there's a lot more to this story than just giving a girl chicken nuggets and taking away her sandwich.
    The pizza -vegetable thing didn't just come from a few months ago. It actually was started by Ronald Reagan who said tomato sauce was to be considered such because it was made from tomatoes. I remember when he made that remark and it stirred up a hornets nest in many circles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChesterCopperpot View Post
    I've read the peanut allergy is coming from lotions and other products that contain peanut oil that didn't exist until relatively recently. Having too much of something can potentially make you allergic to it. Gluten is the same way I think, you can develop an allergy to it.
    The opposite can be true also. If you aren't exposed to allergens, when you are they can hit you a lot harder.
    Allergy shots do this. The give you small exposure to the allergen and increase the dose until you develop a resistance. Cloistering someone can be as bad as over exposure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catrentshaving View Post
    We're not allowed to send peanut butter or any peanut product to school due to peanut/nut allergies that other children may have.


    Policy makers are such idiots. How about people just teach kids with peanut allergies to look out for peanuts....and ask "does this have peanuts in it?" before eating something they don't know?

    What's next? A ban on certain colours because people with colourblindness can't see them properly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LX_Emergency View Post
    Policy makers are such idiots. How about people just teach kids with peanut allergies to look out for peanuts....and ask "does this have peanuts in it?" before eating something they don't know?

    What's next? A ban on certain colours because people with colourblindness can't see them properly?
    Not that simple, the reaction is often very fast and serious and it doesn't necessarily require eating transfer is also sufficient in many cases.

    Imagine the scene you send your child to school with a peanut butter sandwich he/she's sat next to a child with a nut allergy. That child ask yours to pass the water which they do and a trace of peanut butter transfers to the handle of the jug. Within a couple of minutes the child goes into anaphylactic shock, if they are fortunate the school has adrenaline pens to inject the child, if not they have to hope that the ambulance reaches them in time.

    My kids go to a school where nut products are banned, I don't think its law its just their policy. I have no issues with that because I don't see its important enough to risk the well being of a few of the pupils at the school. Likewise if any of the pupils had a latex allergy I would expect the school to buy non latex gloves for the cleaners etc. its just common sense.

    Even though people who suffer from serious allergies are in the minority there isn't any need to see them as being insignificant enough to not warrant any consideration.

    As for your comparison with colour blindness you will never see a single crossing light which has the ability to show both red and green they will always have position or shape differences so that colour blind people can distinguish whether it is safe to cross or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeltz View Post

    My kids go to a school where nut products are banned, I don't think its law its just their policy. I have no issues with that because I don't see its important enough to risk the well being of a few of the pupils at the school. Likewise if any of the pupils had a latex allergy I would expect the school to buy non latex gloves for the cleaners etc. its just common sense.
    What are you, some kind of Communist?
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    Default It's about the Benjamin's, not the "nutritional value" of anything...

    I made it thru 4 pages of posts and this may or may not have been covered, but wanted to throw this out there.

    I don't believe the root of the "replacement meal" is even about the nutritional value of the lunch that the parent provided. Lets face it, most schools here in the US are struggling financially. The more students that eat a school lunch, the more $ the lunchroom receives from the state. If a parent sends lunch with the child, the lunchroom doesn't receive credit for them eating...

    Like I said, it's all about the Benjamin's...
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    Now lets be correct here guys.

    It's not color blindness it's color deficit. True color blindness is extremely rare. Most have issues with red-green only. I know, I'm one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
    Now lets be correct here guys.

    It's not color blindness it's color deficit. True color blindness is extremely rare. Most have issues with red-green only. I know, I'm one of them.
    My son is red-green deficient as well. I've been told that it can actually be a advantage for hunters making it easier to see through an animal's camouflage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeltz View Post
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    As for your comparison with colour blindness you will never see a single crossing light which has the ability to show both red and green they will always have position or shape differences so that colour blind people can distinguish whether it is safe to cross or not.
    I never knew that; today I learned something, Thank You Jeltz !

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