Thread: This burns my bacon! More nanny state bureaucratic nonesense.

First, I don't believe everything the media puts forth, however, I was with you until thiis:

Originally Posted by Kantian Pragmatist

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This sounds to me like a bad kid that uses food to manipulate the adults in her life. The only way the school nutritionist is gonna think to supplement a packed school lunch like that is if the kid is complaining about it, so to shut the kid up from whining about how dry the turkey sandwich is and how yucky bananas are, she gives her a school lunch. So when she gets home and her mom asks her what she ate and why she didn't eat her packed lunch, she tells her mom that the school lunch lady made her take a school lunch and she only ate three nuggets off it. Instead of getting mad at the kid for not eating her banana or the vegetables on the school lunch tray, the mom gets mad at the school lunch lady for daring to offer more food to her kid than what she packed in her lunch. Sounds like another one of those parents who's kid can do no wrong.

Originally Posted by Kantian Pragmatist

Instead, I suspect the kid whined and moaned so much about the lunch her mom packed her, especially when she saw that the class was having chicken nuggets for lunch, that she wore down the nutritionist (probably her teacher) into giving her a school lunch. Then, when she got home and her mom was upset that she didn't eat the lunch she packed for her and learns that she only ate three chicken nuggets for which her mom now has to pay $1.25, she turns it around on the nutritionist claiming she made her eat the school lunch instead. Nobody in the school can make the kid eat or not eat anything, not according to the law and various regulations about nutrition in schools. The simple fact is, this kid chose not to eat the lunch her mom packed for her, and she chose to only eat three chicken nuggets off the school lunch tray. The school's not responsible for the kid's bad eating choices learned and reinforced from mom, all they can do is offer options for eating better.

If the child has such bad eating habits as you suggest and uses food to manipulate the adults in her life, then the Mom would be probably taking her child to Starbucks for breakfast and sending her to school with a "Lunchable" that contains more sodium then I probably eat in a week. And since when is a turkey sandwich with cheese, a banana, apple juice, and some potato chips an example of bad eating choices reinforced by mom? Sounds pretty healthy to me. Deep fried chicken nuggets from a state funded school-yah that's a much better and healthier alternative. Welcome to Fat America.

I don't know why I am surprised, I just spent 30 minutes looking for this story on CNN, ABC, and CBS. I'm not saying it's not there, but if it is, it's damned hard to find.

Fox is the only one that keeps and eye on the government for us.

I dont know about that. Even the libtards at the huffington post reported about it.

https://news.google.com/news/more?hl...ed=0CCsQqgIwAA

Originally Posted by Crotalus

I don't know why I am surprised, I just spent 30 minutes looking for this story on CNN, ABC, and CBS. I'm not saying it's not there, but if it is, it's damned hard to find.

Fox is the only one that keeps and eye on the government for us.

So you think it's more likely that a school lunch lady saw that a kid had a turkey sandwich, apple juice, banana and chips packed for lunch, and decided to say "No, you have to have chicken nuggets instead," rather than a 4 year old kid making a fuss because everybody else is getting chicken nuggets and she wants some, but has her turkey sandwich her mom packed her unless she can convince the lunch lady to give her chicken nuggets too?

Clearly, this kid's mom wants her kid to eat healthy, she took the effort to pack her lunch, after all. That the kid only ate three chicken nuggets isn't the school's fault. They didn't take away her packed lunch and they didn't make her not eat the veggies that were on the school lunch either. Heck, in the original story, the mom admits that she doesn't pack her daughter veggies because she won't eat em. I'm sure she's trying, and she's probably doing about as well in teaching her kid to eat right as anybody else would do in her situation. But that doesn't change the fact that it's a preschooler, most of whom would rather eat something off the floor than anything resembling a vegetable and who would murder their siblings and the family cat if they though it would get them chicken nuggets. It's ridiculous to think the school is overreaching in their authority by giving the kid the school lunch on top of the lunch she brought from home. And it's ridiculous to blame the school for the kid's bad food choices when the only thing the school can do is offer supplements. Either the parents are to blame for not teaching their kids to make good choices, or the kid's to blame for being too immature to make the choices they know they should make.

As for nobody else picking up this story, it's because it's not a very compelling story. I mean seriously, OMG! BREAKING! THREE YEAR OLD KID EATS CHICKEN NUGGETS INSTEAD OF HOME PACKED LUNCH!

You call this evidence of a nanny-state? I mean, if the story were at all like what Catrentshaving has reported happening to him, you'd have a point, but this? They gave the kid more food, who made perhaps the worst possible choice available to her with the plethora of food she had, and sent a $1.25 bill and a form letter home to mom. Mom takes offense to what she sees as an insult to her lunch-packing abilities and having to pay a buck twenty five for her kid eating three chicken nuggets. We have to take her word for it that her kid didn't choose to get the chicken nugget lunch in the first place. You think this deserves to be a national story? Heck, it doesn't even need to be a local story.

(.........Fox is the only one that keeps and eye on the government for us.)

Har, Har, Har, Har. And if they miss something they just make it up.

What part of the chicken is a nugget exactly? Apparently on Tuesday, I dodged the food police and got away with eating a chicharon sandwich on Cuban bread. Chicharon of course being straight up deep fried pig fat/skin. Yeah, it's not all that healthy but it sure is good. Hate to employ the slippery slope technique but this is probably just the beginning. Once we have "free" government funded health care it will get seriously out of hand. I can see rationing of alcohol and tobacco will just be outlawed (but wait who will pay for poor children's health care?). And we still have the stones to call ourselves Land of the Free!? Unbelievable!

That sounds delicious......

Originally Posted by 1OldGI

What part of the chicken is a nugget exactly? Apparently on Tuesday, I dodged the food police and got away with eating a chicharon sandwich on Cuban bread. Chicharon of course being straight up deep fried pig fat/skin.

Originally Posted by Slartibartfast

That sounds delicious......

Oh trust me it was, quite delicious. Not those styrofoam type pork rinds either this was like real no kidding roast big skin and fat, it was glorious with a side of black beans and rice. I may have one today now that I think about it.

The media has a habit of transforming one thing into something else, I suspect that this is the case here and the story is presented in such a way as to make it newsworthy when it probably was totally benign.

A recent story about a school local to where I work made the news with the headline
Children left to freeze in the classrooms after head turns off heating on coldest day of year 'to show how school can be eco-friendly'
The true story is reported by the staff and pupils in the comments section. Apparently it was no where near the coldest day, no complaints were made and the whole thing was seen as a successful demonstration, but that wouldn't have been news worthy would it.

So.. Do I need to live somewhere with a large Cuban population to find this sandwich?

Originally Posted by 1OldGI

Oh trust me it was, quite delicious. Not those styrofoam type pork rinds either this was like real no kidding roast big skin and fat, it was glorious with a side of black beans and rice. I may have one today now that I think about it.