Thread: Ultimate Test of Civility ~ 2nd Amendment

Lots of good points. Here are a few more:

Drugs are illegal and yet they are everywhere. Probably more than some of you may realize. You wipe out one source and another one pops up. Same will happen with guns. The price/value of guns will go up so high that criminals will find a way to get one/sell them, period. Not to mention there are millions of them unaccounted for right now. How will you get all of them back?

As far as relaying on bystanders to save your butt when its getting kicked, I would not count on it. Some will, but most will not. I have seen videos of shoot outs and to my disbelief most people stand there shocked and don't do anything, not even try and save there own skin. Or they go into black and are useless, same will happen when they see similar violence (knife/blunt object attack)

As far as someone calling a LEO to bail you out thats fine if you live in the city. But even then it might take 3 minutes. I am a LEO for a County. My back up is usually 10 minutes or more away. Possibly a little less, but that depends on weather/road conditions/staffing level. So if my backup is that far away, so is a citizens. Of course you could get lucky and one could be less than a minute
away. But when you are getting kicked in the head you don't have a minute. I don't like to rely on luck either. Most of our Country is rural with small law enforcement agencies. I am not saying your local law enforcement will not be able to help you, but why place all your eggs in one basket and assume they can get to you before its to late.

I have come across several victims that should be dead today but got lucky. And I know of some that are dead today because they didn't have a chance to fight back. Some are/were women, that could not have overpowered their attacker period......they would have needed a gun!

I recommend everyone that is legally able to and morally willing to own/use a weapon do so. Learn how/when to use it and be prepared. If you are not willing to use it, then don't own it. Because then you do risk it being used against you.

I carry a weapon with me 99% of the time and try to get more of my fellow LEO's to also. I do it for myself, my family and so that I don't have to standby and let harm come to someone else either. Most coppers I know do not. Probably because its a pain in the butt sometimes. But they have a choice to carry or not to carry. I want to see citizens have that choice also. Due to our current Governor being re-elected that will probably not happen for a while.

Obviously we cannot hand out guns like candy. But you will find that most people that want to CCW are responsible adults that take the responsibility seriously. They educate themselves and pay for good training even when it is not required. You will always have your fair share of idiots, but you cannot punish the group for a few morons. Many times when a city/state allows CCW for the first time the anti crowd cries that there will be blood baths in the street and shoot outs will be a daily occurrence. Yet this never happens. Why is this?

Oh and how about we actually lock-up or the scum that use a gun in a crime. I am still in shock when I run a criminal history on some of these people and they are on the street less than 10 years after being convicted of Homicide! Armed Robbery, Felon in possession of a firearm, Homicide, Attempted Homicide, these are all things that people do a little time for and are back out. The American people as a whole need to get a little sick of this and hold their elected officials accountable for allowing predators like this to be among us.

I agree that the one or two guns your not using for SD should be secured in some way. I see more than I like to taken in burglaries. I wont say a gun safe should be required, but it is a good idea. This would help cut down on illegal guns.

Good point guys, I was typing my post when several of you posted so I didn't mean to repeat about certain things.