Thread: The plot thickens

Second person of interest: http://kdvr.com/2012/07/21/police-lo...ater-shooting/

Kind of mixed messages from this story. Looking for a second person but they don't think he had anything to do with it.

Excerpts from The Telegraph.

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The first video footage of the suspect showed him as an awkward, nervous 18-year-old giving a talk at a science summer camp in San Diego on "temporal illusions". It also emerged that in the days before the attack, Holmes, a cannabis smoker, joined a dating website seeking women for "sexy times" and also tried to join a gun club.

After the massacre Holmes calmly told detectives he had taken 100mg of the prescription painkiller Vicodin, and identified himself as "The Joker". The same drug was found in the system of actor Heath Ledger when he died of an accidental overdose of prescription drugs in 2008. Ledger played The Joker in the previous Batman film The Dark Knight. Vicodin side-effects can include euphoria, paranoia and, in rare cases, hallucinations.

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I haven't run across anything yet about a second shooter. It probably emerged from "the fog of war".

Originally Posted by bharner

¿¿¿What on earth does Mary Jane have to do with this???
Please tell me you're just trolling with that comment. It has no place in a remotely dignified and intelligent conversation.


Just to humor it though and rebut it; I'll be shocked if he had smoked up just prior to this. If he had smoked up the old wacky weed he would have ordered a few pizzas and vegged out to cartoons, Kung Fu movies, or Mario Kart and then fallen in to a restful sleep.

See Post # 12 Sir,Every anti drug/gun/ammo fanatic grp will be all over everything,I do not troll

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

See Post # 12 Sir,Every anti drug/gun/ammo fanatic grp will be all over everything,I do not troll

Cannabis is decriminalized in CO (or was), if I recall correctly and legal for medical use. I'd be interested if any Psych meds were in his system as well.
As someone who may have been stupid in his teenage years I'm 100% certain that I never committed any mass murders while under the influence. It may have been in his system but it wouldn't be the cause of a violent rage.
Now the Vicodin is another matter altogether. Due to chronic illness I have a perpetual prescription for percocet. I am aware of what it does to my body and on the occasions I find myself using it too often my wife and I "detox" me and I don't use it for a month without notifying my MD of each time I use it. It can cause some serious issues and has messed up many a mind.

Originally Posted by bharner

Cannabis is decriminalized in CO (or was), if I recall correctly and legal for medical use. I'd be interested if any Psych meds were in his system as well.
As someone who may have been stupid in his teenage years I'm 100% certain that I never committed any mass murders while under the influence. It may have been in his system but it wouldn't be the cause of a violent rage.
Now the Vicodin is another matter altogether. Due to chronic illness I have a perpetual prescription for percocet. I am aware of what it does to my body and on the occasions I find myself using it too often my wife and I "detox" me and I don't use it for a month without notifying my MD of each time I use it. It can cause some serious issues and has messed up many a mind.

Have nothing against MJ,just your rude comment in post # 9,as far as Cannabis and violent acts,Educate yourself by doing some reaserch as to why the british developed the so called Dum-Dum round for the .303.
Have you ever heard of the hashhasians? some very good info.

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

Have nothing against MJ,just your rude comment in post # 9,as far as Cannabis and violent acts,Educate yourself by doing some reaserch as to why the british developed the so called Dum-Dum round for the .303.
Have you ever heard of the hashhasians? some very good info.

I'll do some reading tonight. And I meant no disrespect in my post but your post came across as incredibly trolltastic laying the blame at a substance ( and not at the perp) which is considered, by most of the developed world, less problematic than alcohol for the majority of its users. (I am not advocating illegal drug use, just researching the topic to see more than one viewpoint) .

Originally Posted by bharner

Cannabis is decriminalized in CO (or was), if I recall correctly and legal for medical use. I'd be interested if any Psych meds were in his system as well.
As someone who may have been stupid in his teenage years I'm 100% certain that I never committed any mass murders while under the influence. It may have been in his system but it wouldn't be the cause of a violent rage.
Now the Vicodin is another matter altogether. Due to chronic illness I have a perpetual prescription for percocet. I am aware of what it does to my body and on the occasions I find myself using it too often my wife and I "detox" me and I don't use it for a month without notifying my MD of each time I use it. It can cause some serious issues and has messed up many a mind.

There might be a few groundhog families that disagree with that.



..........inside joke with bharner......

Originally Posted by bharner

Now the Vicodin is another matter altogether. Due to chronic illness I have a perpetual prescription for percocet. I am aware of what it does to my body and on the occasions I find myself using it too often my wife and I "detox" me and I don't use it for a month without notifying my MD of each time I use it. It can cause some serious issues and has messed up many a mind.

Sorry to hear that Bharner, I have had a couple of serious surgeries that landed oxycodone and percocet in my hands. Each time I knew I was out of control by the end of the bottle, I just thank god I was wise enough to not refill them.
Anyways that was many moons ago before, I would hope I would be stronger then that now, but who knows.
I know my wife is aware of it, and im sure she wouldnt allow either into our house under any circumstance.

To anyone reading this thinking "that could never happen to me" you are very wrong, you dont take these drugs, they take you.

Anyways, back to the theories already, I have popcorn popping, could be the munchies.... lol

Hirlau, I started giggling so hard I almost choked on my pie.
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Don't do that, they will come and get me for murder by keyboard.