Thread: USA Gun Laws Poll

No gun law past or present would have prevented the coward from Colo. from placing improvised bombs in the theater (like he did in his home). It would have had a greater level of carnage without any doubt. Gun laws in America? Too many. Look at Chicongo Ill. They have had the strictest gun laws in the U.S. for many years and look at their murder rate. Look at D.C. Equally as strict gun laws and it has been the murder capital for many years as well. It was against the LAW to own a handgun in both places for many many years. Look what it did for the residents there. Look how it helped them to feel "safe". That in fact is all a gun law is for....To make the unarmed, uneducated populace of sheep feel safe. Cops aren't everywhere all the time. There are there to mop up the blood and write a report. We have laws on the books about "straw purchases" and our own Federal Govt. saw fit to break that law repeatedly, which resulted in Brian Terry (BP agent) getting killed with a straw purchased firearm. Tell me how that law, or any other when not followed by the general criminal populace or our own Govt. is going to change anything.........

I'm not sure how to vote on this. I believe that all current gun laws should be scrapped, getting rid of all the knee jerk reaction laws, and start over, making laws that make sense and can be enforceable. I also feel that gun control should not be federal law but left up to the individual states.

I feel that I need to explain my vote, so I offer my own 2 cents on the issue.

There are already MANY gun laws in the US that are not enforced properly. I do not understand the point in making more laws if you don't enforce the ones already existing. That's just writing things down rather than doing anything, so that voters believe you are acting.

Never thought I would agree with Ice T the "OG", but...........


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Originally Posted by Pithor

I'd say every gun requires an application, and every application requires a serious psychiatric evaluation, plus training.

And just on a side note, the argument against illegalizing guns, "If someone really wants a gun, they'll get it anyway", is BS. It's pretty much identical too: "If someone really wants cocaine, they'll get it anyway," so why not legalize that, with registration?

Where do I begin?

1) Psychiatric evaluation for each gun? Really? Do you know how many guns some collectors have? Do you know what sort of a waste of tax dollars that would involve? Or, what if I go hunting and my knucklehead buddy packs my rifle badly and it gets damaged in transport.. Right now, I have the option of going to the nearby gun shop and picking up a replacement. Imagine having to schedule a psychiatric evaluation in a rural area where there are no psychiatrists, after I have already scheduled a vacation. In Canada, we have a licensing system where you take a safety course (which involves dealing with personal crises and mental issues, too), are interviewed by the police, your references (2 of good moral character) get interviewed and your criminal and mental health history get evaluated. That's more than enough as far as I am concerned. I don't need to go through that jazz for each and every gun purchase.

2) If a person wants a gun or a mortar or explosives, they can just go to Wikipedia and click on the download link to a terrorist/fascist guerrilla training manual published by the US government, that is in public domain. It tells you all about making explosives, controls, mortars, propellant, primer and firearms (I could even legally make a shotty based on their recipe, but it's time intensive and I have plenty of off-the-shelf reasonably priced alternatives), with commonly available materials. Groups like the Taliban and MS13 are very grateful for it.

3) There are no legitimate uses for cocaine without a doctor's prescription. I don't need a prescription to go hunting, to put holes in paper at the range, collect items of historical interest or to defend my family.