Thread: USA Gun Laws Poll

Based on the other thread, I am curious about the general views of gun laws in the USA.
I thought a poll might be interesting...

Good Idea HNSB!!! I wonder what the results will look like after a few days....

The Sullivan Law in NYC and the federal laws regulating ownership of fully automatic weapons demonstrate the "effectiveness" of gun laws. The gun control act of 1964 and the Brady bill went plenty far enough. What they need to do is enforce what they have instead of inventing new restrictions on the public while criminals ignore whatever new laws the government invents along with the existing ones.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

The Sullivan Law in NYC and the federal laws regulating ownership of fully automatic weapons demonstrate the "effectiveness" of gun laws. The gun control act of 1964 and the Brady bill went plenty far enough. What they need to do is enforce what they have instead of inventing new restrictions on the public while criminals ignore whatever new laws the government invents along with the existing ones.

Couldn't have said it better myself. At least the tide is turning here in Canada. Recent polls, even on leftie news outlet sites indicate that our public is beginning to realize that the AR won't escape from the safe and start killin' babies and kittens and your typical gangbanger's already willing to commit murder - gun laws aren't even on his radar.

Given the demographics on the members here, this polls results are not gonna be all that hard to predict in all honesty.
In other words, my idea of confiscation, demolition and prohibition against all manufacturing will perhaps not rule supreme

Then again, who knows, I might just turn in to a doomsday prepper before long, stocking up on beans and guns..

I voted no because I dont think we need more laws pertaining to guns, I do believe there needs to be better education and training prior to gun ownership. I also agree with Jimmy there needs to be enforcement along with more aggressive punishment for gun crimes.
@Birnando There is much more than beans that you can store for protein, and might I suggest you learn to can your own.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

What they need to do is enforce what they have instead of inventing new restrictions on the public while criminals ignore whatever new laws the government invents along with the existing ones.

Our federal government has a predilection for creating the appearance that it is taking actions to resolve a crisis. Prior to 9/11, when the plot to blow up several airplanes at Los Angeles Airport was uncovered, what did our federal government do to ensure our safety in the face of future nefarious plots? Why, they enacted a law making it illegal to crack a joke while standing in the screening line at the airport. I feel so much safer knowing that the sort of terrorist we might read about in the Annual Darwin Awards email will be singled out and apprehended after he jokes about the three pounds of RDX he has hidden in his carry on bag.

Seriously. Whatever it takes to pander for votes at that particular point in time.

Back in the 70s, my sister and her bf rented a house in a neighborhood where the crime rate was steadily increasing. The bf got two acquaintances to help him install steel bars on the windows to keep burglars out. The following Saturday night, after dinner and a late movie, they arrived home to find the lights on in the house. The bf had a ccw permit and was packing so he pulled his piece and they entered the house. Everything of value was stacked up in the bedroom, ready to go out the window where the driveway was. The bf went to search the other rooms. My sister went to check the closet where the gun safe was. Turned out thats where the burglars were hiding. After they beat up my sister, they ran after her bf, not knowing he was packing. The bf shot the first burglar dead. Second burglar raised his hands and quietly lay down on the kitchen floor. They turned out to be the two acquaintances who helped the bf install the bars on the windows earlier that week. It goes without saying that if the bf did not have a ccw permit and was not in the habit of carrying his piece, the police would have ended up fishing the lifeless bodies of my sister and her bf out of the river a few days later.

No one has to convince me that our gun control laws are restrictive enough already.

I voted "Yes, and I am not a US citizen".

I'm not saying I'm against owning guns per se, but it seems relatively easy to get guns in North America (although apparently Canada has less gun related incidents). I'd say every gun requires an application, and every application requires a serious psychiatric evaluation, plus training.

You can never get rid of all gun related violence, but you'll weed out quite a number of accidental mess-ups.

And just on a side note, the argument against illegalizing guns, "If someone really wants a gun, they'll get it anyway", is BS. It's pretty much identical too: "If someone really wants cocaine, they'll get it anyway," so why not legalize that, with registration?

The problem with this line of thinking is that there wasn't a "gun" law, federal or state, that this guy violated. Prior to this, he wasn't even on the radar...from the reports he seemed to be a bright guy with a pretty decent looking future. No history of mental illness, no prior legal troubles, heck he might have even helped his landlady with her groceries. That begs the question of what, in reality, would have prevented this? Have him register his guns? Yeah, so? A random piece of paper in the sheriffs office wouldn't have done jack. Total ban on sales and production? Right.. never going to happen, even in your most utopian, Kumbayah-singing fantasies. Mental health screens... HIPPA violations aside, the ACLU would jump down the throats of anyone foolish enough to think that would stand a chance in hell of being signed into law. Anywhere. Every time something like this happens, the media frenzy over firearms in CONUS creates this micro-stir that goes nowhere.

After a stint in the Corps, a decade or so doing emergency medicine, and a list of other, less reputable endeavors, I agree that this creep shooting up a theater is tragic. But I can take a guy with a gun. You wanna be scared... consider the real issue of this lone wolf taking all the IED's he made, learning how to remote detonate them, and placing them around your city. Or worse, finding that a couple bags of fertilizer, a 10 gallon bucket of nails, and a few other items in the trunk of a car works even better.

Still want to talk about the .40 he bought legally?

No gun law past or present would have prevented the coward from Colo. from placing improvised bombs in the theater (like he did in his home). It would have had a greater level of carnage without any doubt. Gun laws in America? Too many. Look at Chicongo Ill. They have had the strictest gun laws in the U.S. for many years and look at their murder rate. Look at D.C. Equally as strict gun laws and it has been the murder capital for many years as well. It was against the LAW to own a handgun in both places for many many years. Look what it did for the residents there. Look how it helped them to feel "safe". That in fact is all a gun law is for....To make the unarmed, uneducated populace of sheep feel safe. Cops aren't everywhere all the time. There are there to mop up the blood and write a report. We have laws on the books about "straw purchases" and our own Federal Govt. saw fit to break that law repeatedly, which resulted in Brian Terry (BP agent) getting killed with a straw purchased firearm. Tell me how that law, or any other when not followed by the general criminal populace or our own Govt. is going to change anything.........