Thread: USA Gun Laws Poll

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

I've read that in prisons they will sharpen the handle of a toothbrush to make a "shank." Necessity is the mother of invention. Cain and Abel, the first example of brotherly love, was also an example of murder with a rock IIRC.

The toothbrush shiv doesn't beat the newspaper crossbow. I think they tested that one out on mythbusters... Either way, when you have nothing but time to build a weapon, crazy stuff can come out of the results.

Iduno about clubbing my brother to death with a rock, but I did tape him in a cardboard box and spray JOOP! inside ...

I hadn't heard of the newspaper crossbow. Brought to mind Joe Valachi. He was a mafia 'soldier' who was marked for death , in prison, by Don VIto Genovese. The Don was also an inmate and gave him the 'kiss of death.' Joe became a bit paranoid, understandably so. He thought a guy who appeared to be following him was out to fulfill the contract so he laid for him with a length of pipe and beat him to death. Turned out he got the wrong guy. This lead to him being the first mafioso to break the code of omerta (silence) hence the 'Valachi Papers' and a role for Charles Bronson.

I was talking to my uncle from Holland not that long ago. He asked how I was enjoying living in "The Land of The Gun?" Being I am a gun nut, and think that guns in America are about as identifiable to the nation as apple pie and baseball, I got into how the country was founded and how people here really believe that they have the right to own guns in order to ensure their defense from a tyrannical government bla, bla, bla.

He listened politely and when I was done (and feeling rather good about myself if I can say so myself), he simply stated, "yeah we felt the same way here in Holland, but when the Nazi's came in tanks, we put our guns down." I was dumbfounded! He then went on and recited that after hurricane Katrina, they just took everyone's guns anyway...

Well he's right! One tank will take an entire state of guys only armed with guns. One jet or chopper - two.

That's all to say restriction isn't going to help unless we understand what exactly we are restricting! Restricting for the sake of restriction or as knee jerk reactions after a shooting doesn't solve a thing if you ask me. But I am with the Fin Pithor thinking that there should be some kind of restrictions on gun ownership... in KS anyway.

Seriously, a paranoid stereophonic who's on enough drugs to put down a horse can walk into gun store here and get whatever he/she wishes within ten minutes just so long as that person doesn't have any criminal record. If that person walked into a Walmart here to get said weapon - they could get their drugs, a six-pack, and some snacks on the way out too LOL.

It is illegal for persons in the US with serious mental health issues to buy firearms. Most persons that purchase a firearm must sign the federal form asking that and other questions. Disqualified persons having mental health issues can lie on the form in spite of possible serious penalties for perjury. While computer background checks are required for most firearms sales, personal medical information is protected in the US with severe penalties for its disclosure and probably could not be released for computer records searches. A court order is usually necessary to gain involuntary access to personal medical information. Computer systems having medical information are required to comply with certain security standards. There is also no single central repository of medical records in the US, one would have to know which health care providers and insurance companies to serve with court orders to obtain a medical record. US/State/Municipal authorities cannot interfere with persons having mental health issues, unless they can convince a court that the person has become a danger to themselves or others.

I've been thinking a while about the Colorado movie theater incident a lot. I am hearing so much more about "gun control", this notion absolutely foolish. All gun control does is limit law abiding citizens, do you think the law breakers will follow the laws? Hell no, this is fact and point...look at history and around the world.

My wife and I went to the theater this weekend and watched a movie in Paris, TX & I think, HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED? If that same sicko (no, I don't think he was mentally ill...that's just a cop out to try and avoid lethal injection) would have tried the same thing here, sure he would have shot a few...but is "threat" would have been eliminated by law abiding concealed carriers.

This should be an eye opener to all, go out and obtain your Concealed Carry license and carry at all times (where legal of course) as this could happen to you or your family. Sure the police were there in minutes, but seconds count when you have to defend yourself or family.

I pray to God that none of my friends or family are never placed in this situation, but if you are I hope you are prepared.