Thread: USA Gun Laws Poll

Add to that, maybe people will think I'm all wet but ...... our "entertainment" which impressionable young people many times build role models from. Glorifying violence and casting criminals in a 'glamorous' or sympathetic light. To some of these young gang kids life ain't nothin' but a movie.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Add to that, maybe people will think I'm all wet but ...... our "entertainment" which impressionable young people many times build role models from. Glorifying violence and casting criminals in a 'glamorous' or sympathetic light. To some of these young gang kids life ain't nothin' but a movie.

I was going to hit the like button, but I dont like it, I agree with it, but I do not like it.

Is it just a coincidence that the bar graph for the poll looks kinda like a gun?

Originally Posted by Theseus

Is it just a coincidence that the bar graph for the poll looks kinda like a gun?

If I was a psychologist and you were looking at ink blots ...... I'd start to wonder about you .. but yeah, you're right it kinda does.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

If I was a psychologist and you were looking at ink blots ...... I'd start to wonder about you ..

You're not the first and certainly not the last to tell me that.

HamburgO

It just floors me that anyone reading the excel spread sheet from UNODC wants to compare apples to oranges. The only way the US comes out ahead if you compare it to countries not in it's class as a first ranked nation. The US is higher than virtually all of the countries of Western Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. all of which have more repressive gun laws yet have a much lower rate per capita of homicide using firearms. Seems to me at quick glance the average is about 0.4 for the other countries I mentioned and the US is at 3.0 per capita. How in the world does that equate into more guns equals less violence? Even I could look good compared to a serial killer.

Bob

Australia has a higher per capita rate of murder by boomerang ..... or so I heard.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Add to that, maybe people will think I'm all wet but ...... our "entertainment" which impressionable young people many times build role models from. Glorifying violence and casting criminals in a 'glamorous' or sympathetic light. To some of these young gang kids life ain't nothin' but a movie.

I don't think there is anything "wet" about this at all. In combination with the rest of our social disorders, the glorification of violence and the individual desensitization and disassociation that goes with it, IMO definitely compounds the problem - although I must note that kids in Canada and Europe and Japan are exposed to the same material, and we're not seeing the same levels of predatory violence in those countries. An excellent book on the subject, written not long after the Columbine shooting, is Lt. Col. Dave Grossman's "Stop Teaching Our Kids How To Kill". Grossmann is a former Army Ranger and psychologist whose studies on the physiological and psychological effects of inter-personal violence are considered seminal.

Originally Posted by HamburgO

I don't think there is anything "wet" about this at all. In combination with the rest of our social disorders, the glorification of violence and the individual desensitization and disassociation that goes with it, IMO definitely compounds the problem - although I must note that kids in Canada and Europe and Japan are exposed to the same material, and we're not seeing the same levels of predatory violence in those countries. An excellent book on the subject, written not long after the Columbine shooting, is Lt. Col. Dave Grossman's "Stop Teaching Our Kids How To Kill". Grossmann is a former Army Ranger and psychologist whose studies on the physiological and psychological effects of inter-personal violence are considered seminal.

I think this is an important point, desensitization. What do people expect when there is a lot of footage from modern wars that show the view from a camera in the nose of a smart bomb or a drone delivering a strike and so on. It all starts to look like those games kids love to play on their PCs. There is a real disconnect with reality. In reality people riddled by a mini gun don't get up for round 2 and a replay. There ain't much left of them and what is would make you want to hurl your guts out in reality.

Unfortunately other countries are not immune to this either. At least Canada is not according to this Firearms and Violent Crime . The stats on the 12 to 17 age group is more than just a little worrying. We may be late to the party but we are getting there, sadly enough.