Thread: The Nanny State

I understand most of the problems faced by mothers to be that effect the outcome of their decision to or not to breast feed. Not to breast feed may not be the "best" decision but it is not as if by feeding formula instead they are poisoning their child. I understand too the marketing approach of the formula companies. At best it can be described as shrewd, I would not elevate it to that status, and if you are dumb enough to fall for it then you are not much different from any other consumer in most all societies. That said, it is still the mothers decision to make considering that either way she is not willfully harming her child. I don't see the need for government to be involved and drag the hospital in on top of that. If formula feeding was that harmful the government should ban its production, it is not and they haven't.

Bob

BobH --
Finally, a voice of reason in the wilderness. Thank you, Sir!

Originally Posted by BobH

I understand most of the problems faced by mothers to be that effect the outcome of their decision to or not to breast feed. Not to breast feed may not be the "best" decision but it is not as if by feeding formula instead they are poisoning their child. I understand too the marketing approach of the formula companies. At best it can be described as shrewd, I would not elevate it to that status, and if you are dumb enough to fall for it then you are not much different from any other consumer in most all societies. That said, it is still the mothers decision to make considering that either way she is not willfully harming her child. I don't see the need for government to be involved and drag the hospital in on top of that. If formula feeding was that harmful the government should ban its production, it is not and they haven't.

Bob

I think if you read my posts you will see that I agree. Clearly. But it would help if society as a whole went a bit farther to help as well.

Originally Posted by earcutter

You would think a mother would do what's best for their children at all costs... But I noted here in KS when the wife and I went to pre-birth classes, that many mothers hadn't even considered breast feeding - even though it's the best thing to do for your child at birth. Like the one lady said, "My mom just said don't bother... so I never even considered it."

Gee, David, like you've never taken the easy way out on anything. Most parents do what is most convenient over what is actually most adaptive and rationalize their decisions for doing so. It is the way of the world.

Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

Gee, David, like you've never taken the easy way out on anything. Most parents do what is most convenient over what is actually most adaptive and rationalize their decisions for doing so. It is the way of the world.

I am sure I do MLA - I am sure you do too. But when it comes to my kids I would like to think otherwise. Maybe I have rationalized my decisions so well I don't even know it... but I doubt it.

David --
I know I have. One of the differences between us is that I don't (think) I have any kids. See, I get to avoid that whole can of worms! I also don't tell anyone how to raise their children.

Originally Posted by sheajohnw

"Straight Razors don't kill people, people kill people" I have 11 straights, but does anyone really need a straight razor, especially more than one? Won't we all be safer when there are no more staright razors in the world and we all must use electric razors or grow beards? One never knows when anyone may go postal and become Sweeney Todd. A person's unblemished record as an upstanding citizen is no guarantee of their future sanity or continued good behavior. I understand that prisons have high murder rates despite very high security being present, the victims there are usually puctured by illegally obtained sharp objects, and that security in communities will never be as high as that found in prisons. However, if it may save even one life, any responsible person with a social conscience should willing give up their straight razors.

So, what do you guys think of fully automatic straight razors, or of shavettes with hundred-blade magazines?

Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

David --
I know I have. One of the differences between us is that I don't (think) I have any kids. See, I get to avoid that whole can of worms! I also don't tell anyone how to raise their children.

Not tracking..

Originally Posted by roughkype

So, what do you guys think of fully automatic straight razors, or of shavettes with hundred-blade magazines?

Would one need a moderator-issued permit for a full-auto razor?

Originally Posted by earcutter

I think if you read my posts you will see that I agree. Clearly. But it would help if society as a whole went a bit farther to help as well.

What happened to that rugged individualism, the I am self sufficient don't need or want any help rhetoric often heard? Just yanking your chain a bit Dave, but yes that would be nice and helpful but even less likely to happen now and in the future due to the race to the bottom courtesy of globalization. There are no longer any resources to spare.

Bob