Thread: 21 years for 77 killed?

That sounds a little better "B", to our American ears we mostly think "The Death Penalty" or at the least "Life plus 100 years" for we feel unless there is a true finality to the sentence that they "Could" get out on Parole..
I think to my mind there is nothing worse then the thought of a Murderer being released from prison, I could not imagine being a Loved one of a murder victim knowing that they might someday walk the same street as I do again... That to me would be the definition of Hell

Thank you Birnando, that clarifies things.

If they had had the death penalty then he would have been a martyr to some, this way is better.

21 years is maximum penalty in Norway, but it can be prolonged on 5 year periods after he has done his 21. He will be isolated from the other prisoners too, spending his time alone.
My guess is that he will never be a free man again but will stay in prison for the rest of his days.

I'm loving how the Americans are demanding his execution (snark).

Originally Posted by gssixgun

That sounds a little better "B", to our American ears we mostly think "The Death Penalty" or at the least "Life plus 100 years" for we feel unless there is a true finality to the sentence that they "Could" get out on Parole..
I think to my mind there is nothing worse then the thought of a Murderer being released from prison, I could not imagine being a Loved one of a murder victim knowing that they might someday walk the same street as I do again... That to me would be the definition of Hell

Indeed.
I think that your thoughts here are very much in sync with the vast majority over here as well.
In my ways, our legal system was not ready for an event like this, and we've had to use what was available within our current ones.
The very thought of this sicko ever hitting the streets again sits very very wrong with people over here, and I suspect it would be a rather unpleasant freedom for him.
Shortlived even

Birnando

Thank you for your two clarification posts. I almost popped a blood vessel when I initially saw the 21 year sentence. I am still uneasy though because I wonder if those extensions to his sentence will be based on a psychiatric assessment at each interval? If that is the case, then there is still a slim chance of his release at some point. Personally he does not deserve even that slim possibility and I think the ability to invoke the death penalty would have been a far better solution in this case.

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

Birnando

Thank you for your two clarification posts. I almost popped a blood vessel when I initially saw the 21 year sentence. I am still uneasy though because I wonder if those extensions to his sentence will be based on a psychiatric assessment at each interval? If that is the case, then there is still a slim chance of his release at some point. Personally he does not deserve even that slim possibility and I think the ability to invoke the death penalty would have been a far better solution in this case.

Bob

The court decided he was accountable (i.e he knew clearly what he was doing) not psychotic so his extensions will be decided by the juridical authorities, not psychiatrists.
The Breivik case has been reported widely here. Not only because they are our good neighbors but because there are some small political parties who keep big noise about understanding Breivik and his motives. Such a wackos.

Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

I'm loving how the Americans are demanding his execution (snark).

Uhhh... There might be a Canuck or two in that mix MLA.

You know - I don't necessarily believe in the death penalty. My reasoning is quite simple: until you can convince me that there is a Hell, then I think revenge is best served alive. And if I was a victim, I would want revenge. I am just not developed enough mentally to forgive these kinds of acts... Call it immaturity or whatever you like, but at my age I am not sure i am going to change.

I would want to know the person who committed these acts was suffering! Anyway, it's cases like this though that make's me wonder if I haven't got it wrong with my not believing in the death penalty.

That's what justice in this world has come to. Murder might get you a few years, but don't dare steal a loaf of bread.

Originally Posted by Firefighter2

That's what justice in this world has come to. Murder might get you a few years, but don't dare steal a loaf of bread.

Hmmmm, Sounds very Le Mis to me