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    Wow! 21 years!? That's 99.5 days in jail for every person he, with premeditation... went out and killed!!

    Go Norway...

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    What I heard was 10-21 years, and I changed the channel, in anger, then Fox said that it was 10-21 years but it could be extended at a later date, and I started watching Falling Skies as it seemed more believable
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    As I understand it, that's the maximum sentence available under Norwegian law BUT it can also be extended indefinitely should the individual in question be deemed a threat to society. I would be very surprised if Mr. Breivik ever sees the outside of a prison.
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    Wow! I thought murder was pretty cheap here. Norway must be having a sale!

    No offense meant towards our brothers there. But it just doesnt seem right to me that this lunatic can take so many young lives and get off so easy.
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    We can hope that there will be some inmates wherever they put him that will see too it that he doesn't live to complete his sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    What I heard was 10-21 years, and I changed the channel, in anger, then Fox said that it was 10-21 years but it could be extended at a later date, and I started watching Falling Skies as it seemed more believable
    So I have a friend in Norway who has something like 8 kids, and like Glen after reading the headline I just went back to serfing watches on the web as I was dumbfounded... Falling Skies did seem more believable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cangooner View Post
    As I understand it, that's the maximum sentence available under Norwegian law BUT it can also be extended indefinitely should the individual in question be deemed a threat to society. I would be very surprised if Mr. Breivik ever sees the outside of a prison.
    When I went back to the story... well I get it sort of. I mean I understand law a bit and sure, maybe he'll never see life outside of jail again but I just couldn't get past that 21 years thing. For every kid he shot and killed he got a mere 3 months and a week... As a father I just wouldn't feel right even if I was Norwegian and knew better...
    Quote Originally Posted by nun2sharp View Post
    Wow! I thought murder was pretty cheap here. Norway must be having a sale!

    No offense meant towards our brothers there. But it just doesnt seem right to me that this lunatic can take so many young lives and get off so easy.
    That's funny!
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    We can hope that there will be some inmates wherever they put him that will see too it that he doesn't live to complete his sentence.
    Then my mind went here... I hope you are right Jimmy. Sorry, but killing kids is just where my mind goes on instinct - even after all this time.
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    I'm sure there's 0% chance of release after 21 years, that number is just a formality.
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    I personally hate it when others from foreign nations feel free to weigh in on what and how we do things here in America. Norway lost their countrymen. And Norway delt with it their way. I'm sure there is some kind of men there who are 'mobbed up' and will clip this guy given the chance. But I will not include myself in wagging a finger at a fine nation, over their business. Even though I believe that man should have been hanged this afternoon.
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    21 years is the maximum penalty under Norwegian law.
    But he did not receive a regular 21 years of imprisonment.

    What he did receive was something we call special detention.
    What that means is he is to be detained untill deemed rehabilitated or no longer a danger to society.
    I would doubt very much that he would ever be regarded as either by most any Norwegian.

    If it makes you lot feel better, then let's just call it life imprisonment, becuse that is what will happen in this case.
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    Thanks Birnando, hopefully your explanation curtails the alarmism...

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