Sorry Carl, no first hand experience myself, my 15 year old was doing it last year. I found out one day, that he had a fear of heights. The next day I enrolled him in a rock climbing school. We got lucky & the young lady who owned the school was a fantastic teacher. She had him climbing 30' foot walls in 2 days time, he loved the experience; then she moved away after about 5 months to Oregon area.

The shoes will fit much tighter than your everyday wear shoes, if you can try them on before you purchase, that is good. Ordering online may be a hit & miss , on the size. He used a harness for youths from a company named "Wild Country" .

Have fun & be careful Carl.

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