Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
As I said you cannot ever relate... you cannot ever see an American point of view it is just too foriegn to you...

Solving the "Issue" cannot begin or end with taking my "Rights" because of another's actions, if you don't understand and accept that as a fact, nothing you say can ever be meaningful to an American I tried to explain this during the last discussion but you never understood then either
Glen, you push this idea and it's just plain flawed. Why don't we allow developing countries to acquire weapons of mass destruction ... because of what others before them did. America is the first to suppress the rights of a nation if uncle SAM doesn't agree with it's ideals.

You say that taking your rights away because of another's actions isn't the correct coarse of action but ... it is the only coarse of action. Why do we even have laws ... because somebody at some time did something people just didn't agree with.

Allow me to comment on the "Marx" comment. That man had something. Communism works as an ideal, capitalism is the only thing wrong with communism.
My ideals are based on a life in a socialist country where crime rates are low. Yeah my motorbike was stolen before I left, but had I confronted the thief would I have been shot ... unlikely. Would the thief have ever seen a gun ... unlikely.

Would you give up your weapons if it would prevent another atrocity such as this?

As for saying we build our soap boxes from the corpses of those innocent children. That is disgusting. This is the time for action, when an event such as this is fresh in the minds of even the most conservative voter. If all these lives are lost and nothing changes, they truly died in vein. No matter how much you live your rights you can't deny something has to change. The system can't change, there is too much corruption in the GOP to allow that to happen. They can't even agree on a budget for crying out loud.

I have had time to reflect on why Britain has the violent crime rate it does. If you put your hand on a person, who doesn't want it there, you can be arrested for assauLt.
Take that as you will.