Thread: Grandpa Saves The Day!

Originally Posted by Wullie

This incident doesn't seem to be garnering any media attention.

I WONDER WHY?
Nick Meli, who had a concealed weapon, thought about shooting Oregon mall killer

Possibly BECAUSE it doesn't fit the anti's agenda? SURELY NOT!!

He resisted using his firearm for fear of hitting a bystander behind the shooter. Sounds like clear-headed good judgement on his part.

Doesn't get much clearer than that.

Originally Posted by earcutter

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I am merely pointing out that there consequences to the rights given to people...

Look at the poster you inserted in your post, and remove "Equal".

Rights are not given to the people...

Originally Posted by Wullie

Doesn't get much clearer than that.

Note how it says armed AND disciplined. 'And'. If you pick one, the other comes with the territory. If you don't want the latter, you shouldn't get the former. At least according to George Washington.

In other words, if you can't be a responsible gun owner, you should not have a gun. I am not against gun ownership at all btw.

Originally Posted by Wullie

This incident doesn't seem to be garnering any media attention.

I WONDER WHY?
Nick Meli, who had a concealed weapon, thought about shooting Oregon mall killer

Possibly BECAUSE it doesn't fit the anti's agenda? SURELY NOT!!

I've been in that spot at our local minute market.I refrained from shooting the bad guy because the clerk was directly behind the bad guy and in the line of fire.No story was ever posted about those events.It would have an awkward story to spin,me with half rack of beer in one hand and 45 in the other stopping an armed robber!LOL

All, Let's keep things under control here.
No need to let things go downhill yet again.

Don't be easily offended and don't be a wiseguy.
Instead, try to be constructive in arguments.

I like the fact that the old timer foiled the crime and ran those tugs off. But why is he still firing off rounds as they are out the door and falling over each other.

You never know until you've been there.
Everyone reacts to adrenaline differently.

Originally Posted by Bruno

Note how it says armed AND disciplined. 'And'. If you pick one, the other comes with the territory. If you don't want the latter, you shouldn't get the former. At least according to George Washington.

In other words, if you can't be a responsible gun owner, you should not have a gun. I am not against gun ownership at all btw.

I interpret disciplined to mean " know how to use it"
In which case if you have a gun, by all means know how to use it.

Washington's quote has very little to do with "Today" and also everything..

Where he says Disciplined he is talikng about "Holding the Firing line" which could aslo relate to keeping calm under stress today... Holding a Firing line back in the 1700's took a discipline that is near beyond comprehension today.. You literally had to stand and face enemy fire..

There is a good depiction of this in the movie "The Patriot" with Mel Gibson and Heath Ledger

Today it would mean, holding up under extreme pressure, how you do that, either with accurate controled fire, or the steady ability to not squeeze the trigger because the shot is not safe, depends on the actual situation...

Until you have been in a situation where somebody is intent on taking your life you will not know what you will do, the odds however are very much against you doing anything positive..