Thread: Richard The Third

The photo of his skull in the Times article looks like someone ended it with a sword or axe to the top of his head.

i was reading about it on another post in on here .. its some cool stuff for sure

Originally Posted by gooser

i was reading about it on another post in on here .. its some cool stuff for sure

Didn't see that or I wouldn't have started another thread. The title, Dick York escaped me. Subtle.

I can never see Olivier doing Richard III without thinking of...

Peter Sellers doing Olivier doing Richard III doing the Beatles. Genius.

And please for the love of all things historical, please take anything said by any member of any Richard III society with a grain of salt. While there are some serious and respected capital-H Historians involved with some of the Richard III societies sprinkled around the world, most tend to keep their distance. It is a subject that attracts almost as many loonies as the Templars. And the Templars attract a great many loonies. The assorted Richard III societies tend to be dedicated to proving a particular point about an historical figure, not arriving at an objective truth.

Anyway. It is an interesting story. And while it does relatively little in terms of informing us about the historical Richard (other than being able to see a reconstruction of his face which, I have to admit is pretty darn cool and confirming that he was in fact a corporeal being with bones) I find the science of it fascinating.

Anyway. I give you Mr. Sellars.

Originally Posted by Cangooner

And please for the love of all things historical, please take anything said by any member of any Richard III society with a grain of salt. While there are some serious and respected capital-H Historians involved with some of the Richard III societies sprinkled around the world, most tend to keep their distance. It is a subject that attracts almost as many loonies as the Templars. And the Templars attract a great many loonies. The assorted Richard III societies tend to be dedicated to proving a particular point about an historical figure, not arriving at an objective truth.

Here quoted from the times, is confirmation of your statement ..... "Among those who found his remains, there is a passionate belief that new attention drawn to Richard by the discovery will inspire a reappraisal that could rehabilitate the medieval king and show him to be a man with a strong sympathy for the rights of the common man, who was deeply wronged by his vengeful Tudor successors.

Far from the villainous character memorialized in English histories, films and novels, far from Shakespeare’s damning representation of him as the limping, withered, haunted murderer of his two princely nephews, Richard III can become the subject of a new age of scholarship and popular reappraisal, these enthusiasts believe."

So he was actually a really nice guy who would no doubt be running in the green party if he were alive today .....

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Didn't see that or I wouldn't have started another thread. The title, Dick York escaped me. Subtle.

i wasnt trying to point it out , was jus saying i was reading about it ...lol
when i was reading it i was thinking ... man i wish the good ol' US of A had more history to it so things like that could be found around here ... then i sat back and thought about all the stuff that is probably under a lot of European city's and villages as well as all over the world !!

I found the entire thing to be fantastic,the pics of his remains esp. the extreame curvature of his spine (he was a hunchback) severe scoliosis,encredible stuff.

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

I found the entire thing to be fantastic,the pics of his remains esp. the extreame curvature of his spine (he was a hunchback) severe scoliosis,encredible stuff.

In another article I read earlier in the week they said a steel arrowhead was found in his cervical vertebrae. He also had skull injuries consistent with an edged weapon they said. 'My kingdom for a horse', he was quoted as saying in Shakespeare's play. He was 30 when he got the crown and 32 when he was slain. Short life of trouble.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Here quoted from the times, is confirmation of your statement ..... "Among those who found his remains, there is a passionate belief that new attention drawn to Richard by the discovery will inspire a reappraisal that could rehabilitate the medieval king and show him to be a man with a strong sympathy for the rights of the common man, who was deeply wronged by his vengeful Tudor successors.

Far from the villainous character memorialized in English histories, films and novels, far from Shakespeare’s damning representation of him as the limping, withered, haunted murderer of his two princely nephews, Richard III can become the subject of a new age of scholarship and popular reappraisal, these enthusiasts believe."

So he was actually a really nice guy who would no doubt be running in the green party if he were alive today .....

I have no proof either way but believe that History is controlled by the Winners..