Thread: Drugging Children

Originally Posted by ReardenSteel

Bowhunting and rabbit hunting after school???? By todays' standards your mom would probably be brought on charges.

Nor was I a saint, I got into my fair share of trouble.

if my grades were good i was allowed to stay home the first 3 days of deer gun season , and 4 days for trout fishing in P.A. ..lol..
your right though , we were talking bout that at the house here .. i dont even let my kids go far from the house and here my mom would leave me with a gun or bow and no cell phone or supervision from 230-dark ..lol mayb she was trying to get rid of me ...lol

Originally Posted by gooser

if my grades were good i was allowed to stay home the first 3 days of deer gun season , and 4 days for trout fishing in P.A. ..lol..
your right though , we were talking bout that at the house here .. i dont even let my kids go far from the house and here my mom would leave me with a gun or bow and no cell phone or supervision from 230-dark ..lol mayb she was trying to get rid of me ...lol

I used to wander alone in the woods when I was far too young by today's standards as well, often with sharp or dangerous objects. I turned out fine.

Originally Posted by regularjoe

I would guess a large part of our view of the world is painted by the media. There's always been bad kids, there's always been bad parents, and so far as I know, there's always been drugs(the bad kind). The thing is, we were'nt always able to log on to the world wide web and read about calamity all over the world. If someone in the next state had a bad kid that beat up little kids, or stole, or took drugs, you weren't likely to ever hear about it. Because you didn't know them, and it wouldn't be in your local newspaper. There's always bad people in every town, but people got by thinking they knew who all the bad ones were. The world got smaller on us, is all.

The world isn't really going to hell I don't think. We're just a lot less likely to trust people these days, because we have access to the worst news of the worst news, from all over the world. And it has a cummulative affect on our perception. If the only people you ever heard about were in your own town, most of us wouldn't think the world was so bad off I think. Then again, I live in a pretty small town.

Some valid points here foe sure. Especially that of the world getting smaller. But there's more than that. The media isn't just pulling back the cover and exposing what is there. The media also takes a more active role in our society and it's influence has changed dramatically over the years. Years ago the good guy always won. Principle and virtue paid off. This week I watched a show on tv where a girl stabbed her mother to death because she felt verbally wronged by her mother. The director made sure to make the girl seem like the victim. What is the message that is delivered here? If you are wronged, you're entitled to do what you like. This is not an exception. It's more of the rule.

Originally Posted by ReardenSteel

Bowhunting and rabbit hunting after school???? By todays' standards your mom would probably be brought up on charges.

.and your bow confiscated & your beagle sent to the pond for animal abuse.

Oh!!, just bought a Diamond Infinite Edge compound bow about 20 minutes ago from Bass Pro, they will have to pry the string from my cold dead hands...

.........O.K., now get back on topic !

Originally Posted by ScienceGuy

I used to wander alone in the woods when I was far too young by today's standards as well, often with sharp or dangerous objects. I turned out fine.

i dont know if i ended up fine but yeah long as i can remember i was allowed to play in the woods ...lol..

Originally Posted by Hirlau

.and your bow confiscated & your beagle sent to the pond for animal abuse.

the police tried to take my bow once while i was shooting carp .. the officer said no hunting in city limits !! i said im fishing , he said im gonna hold you until your parents show up .. i said here is the regulations on boy FISHING and when you call my dad make sure he shows up with the lawyer !! he said dont get smart , go home , and dont do it again !! i was there the next day and talked tothe gamewarden who said he would contact the officer on the rules ..

I believe that a lot of the problem today is that kids are just fine being IN THE HOUSE. When I was a kid, being confined to indoors was a type of punishment. But today, what with all the video games and internet, kids love that they're inside. When I got home on Friday afternoon, my parents didn't usually see me until Sunday morning (when i got DRUGGED to church). At 10-12 years old, I was spending more time in the woods than I was at home. My parents never had to worry about gun violence because all the kids around there knew what a gun was and how and for what is was used. They never had to worry drugs because the ones who used them were well known and we were prohibited from socializing with them. My friends knew that my mom or dad would whip their @ss just as quick as their own parents would and vice versa. It really does take a village, but a village with the guts to DISCIPLINE the young. And, there would have been absolutely no "lawsuits" regarding "child abuse" because if you didn't whip their butt, you were just as guilty as they were and didn't take your role as an adult in society seriously.
Sorry, but I believe the majority of today's problems stem from LOL (lack of leather).
And disregard the sorry .... I don't apologize for feeling that children need discipline.

First of all I'll admit that just turned 20 in October. By many standards I was raised behind the times. I had to help around the house a lot more than many kids my age, whether it was cleaning, cooking, folding laundry, yard work or helping my dad with a project I was expected to help. I was expected to help when asked, to get good grades, be well spoken and to be respectful; and if I wasn't my parents wouldn't hesitate to administer corporal punishment. I got my first job at ten and my first hourly wage job at 13.

Even though my parents raised me very well I still managed to get into more trouble than I should have. I started running with the wrong crowd, I was 12/13ish and they were mostly 17-20. Even though I was around copious amounts of alcohol, pot, pills and coke I never partook in them. Why? Because I knew they were wrong. Many of you many be asking why did you stick around those people if you knew it was wrong. Well they were my friends and I was taught that the one of the worst things a man could do was turn his back on a friend. So through the countless fights, and drug related mishaps I was always there to get them through the Sh*t one way or another. One day I realized that things were getting too deep, and things were going to get very bad very quickly, so I got out. I straightened up my act and I've stayed that way since I was 16.

My parents raised me to the highest of standards and made sure I knew that there were repercussions for my actions. Of the guys I used to run with many of them have drug problems, nearly all have criminal records, some are in prison for a good while and a couple are now dead because of their actions, while a couple of them took my cue and changed their ways. I do not regret any of what we did, except for the people that got hurt and I know one day I'll have to answer for that, because I know that without it I wouldn't be the man I am today. But I thank God every day for my parents and the way the raised me to know right from wrong.

Sorry for the long post but I felt that I should give a younger man's point of view.

Originally Posted by Devilpup

First of all I'll admit that just turned 20 in October. By many standards I was raised behind the times. I had to help around the house a lot more than many kids my age, whether it was cleaning, cooking, folding laundry, yard work or helping my dad with a project I was expected to help. I was expected to help when asked, to get good grades, be well spoken and to be respectful; and if I wasn't my parents wouldn't hesitate to administer corporal punishment. I got my first job at ten and my first hourly wage job at 13.

Even though my parents raised me very well I still managed to get into more trouble than I should have. I started running with the wrong crowd, I was 12/13ish and they were mostly 17-20. Even though I was around copious amounts of alcohol, pot, pills and coke I never partook in them. Why? Because I knew they were wrong. Many of you many be asking why did you stick around those people if you knew it was wrong. Well they were my friends and I was taught that the one of the worst things a man could do was turn his back on a friend. So through the countless fights, and drug related mishaps I was always there to get them through the Sh*t one way or another. One day I realized that things were getting too deep, and things were going to get very bad very quickly, so I got out. I straightened up my act and I've stayed that way since I was 16.

My parents raised me to the highest of standards and made sure I knew that there were repercussions for my actions. Of the guys I used to run with many of them have drug problems, nearly all have criminal records, some are in prison for a good while and a couple are now dead because of their actions, while a couple of them took my cue and changed their ways. I do not regret any of what we did, except for the people that got hurt and I know one day I'll have to answer for that, because I know that without it I wouldn't be the man I am today. But I thank God every day for my parents and the way the raised me to know right from wrong.

Sorry for the long post but I felt that I should give a younger man's point of view.

Just take heart that you're the exception to the rule DP..good on ya man.