Thread: Joseph Elliot stub tail restoration

Originally Posted by Martin103

Can you please educate me as to how is it possible that Elliot company was founded in 1795 and his famous trademark granted in 1805?

Oops! My apologies, I obviously spoke without any knowledge of the actual date the mark was granted and I made an assumption of which Joseph was granted freedom.

Originally Posted by silverloaf

Oops! My apologies, I obviously spoke without any knowledge of the actual date the mark was granted and I made an assumption of which Joseph was granted freedom.

With the history of Elliot razors, it's really, really easy to go astray. It's super murky.

Luckily, Geoffrey Tweedale chased down a living descendant to sort out some of the family tree... But still couldn't figure out where John Elliot comes into things.

Here's an uncommonly marked Elliot:



The hammer denotes that it was made with cast steel and a hammer rather than poured into a mold. The mark was the culmination of a run of folks passing off iron goods as steel. In 1818, George III issued a decree about markings.

Some cutlers seem to have continued using the hammer for a while (George Johnson), but most used it briefly then went back to the usual, which dates this razor to 1818-1824(?)ish.

Originally Posted by Voidmonster

The Joseph Elliot granted his freedom in 1835 was most likely the son or possibly even grandson of the company founder, who was born in 1760.

As per company advertisement, the C+C mark was granted in 1805.

Despite the first directory entry being in 1822, Elliot was unequivocally producing razors at least as far back as the 1790's.

I'd say the razor in question dates from 1815-1830.

Thanks for this info, much appreciated.

Originally Posted by Voidmonster

The hammer denotes that it was made with cast steel and a hammer rather than poured into a mold. The mark was the culmination of a run of folks passing off iron goods as steel. In 1818, George III issued a decree about markings.

Some cutlers seem to have continued using the hammer for a while (George Johnson), but most used it briefly then went back to the usual, which dates this razor to 1818-1824(?)ish.

Thank you! I was trying to find out what the hammer mark meant in a thread couple of weeks ago. Now I know


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http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...ph-elliot.html

I'm sorry I missed that thread or I would have explained it there!

Man tuzi! How am I just now seeing this?! Beautiful restoration. I bow to you Sir just beautiful. Makes me want to revisit my Greave a bit.

Hey nice work and great find. Love those stubbies.