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    Default Lots of marijuana-based soaps etc.

    A quick Google search turns up a plethora of posiibilities.

    12 cannabis skin-care products worth trying - Los Angeles Times
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    Quote Originally Posted by HARRYWALLY View Post
    Problem is, You have to pick it up at the post office and show I.D. and sign for it. Not sure how that would work for a hotel delivery.

    Things are suppose to be changing again come April, and Cannabis sales will become privatised. So you will be able to buy from a walk in store eventually. I'll believe this when I see it.
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    I hate to get too serious, but I am involved in the anti-addiction community here in my County, and there are several problems related to pot and cannabis oils that contain THC. They involve brain development in young people. The research clearly shows that both those substances (and lots of others) have a negative effect on brain development in youth. Brain development continues to the age of 25 in males and a few years earlier in females.

    Where I live vaping is becoming the big thing for youth as young as 14, and some of them are vaping oils that contain THC (which are illegal here, but..). Vaping gear can only be bought, like cigarettes here if you're 18, but in addition to having older friends, a source for the gear is enterprising 18 year olds who sell gear to their young friends at a big profit. Once they're vaping, it's hard to tell what they're vaping, because there is no pot odor.

    Anyway, its becoming a problem and I think once you legalize the black market becomes craftier faster than law enforcement and the government does.

    I don't have an answer, just something to think about re: the impact on young people and their futures.
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    Part of the rhetoric for legalization is that it kills the black market and actually makes it harder for minors to obtain. Whether that pans out or not remains to be seen, but it is an interesting take on the situation.

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    About brain development continuing until the age of 25 (at least for males): I hope that my brain has continued to develop since the age of 25, otherwise I've been a fossil ever since! For example, I didn't learn to straight-razor shave until the age of 48. Hopefully, there was some brain development there. In any case, I note that the brain-development arresting at 25 thing is always brought up in the context of THC and marijuana use. Why not bring it up with regard to alcohol consumption and raise the 21 year-old partial prohibition to 25 as well?

    Speaking as a US citizen, I think that American society tends to infantilize things too much. It's as if we want to extend the so-called innocence of childhood as long as possible. Meanwhile we give adolescents car keys at 16, driving being a serious responsibility, military conscription and voting privileges at 18, and put off the forbidden fruit of alcohol, tobacco, and by extension marijuana to 21+. For me, it should be the other way 'round. Let them sow their wild oats at 16 and give them the car keys at 21 when they have more of a sense of their own limits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brontosaurus View Post
    About brain development continuing until the age of 25 (at least for males): I hope that my brain has continued to develop since the age of 25, otherwise I've been a fossil ever since!
    It simply means it isn't a fully (physically) developed brain until 25, not that it stops learning at that age.
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    to lighten it up a little:

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    And I thought it was going to be a pole cat. Used to have a couple when I was a kid, they were wild could spray, but loved me when I brought out the fruity, mini marshmallows. Ya just didn't want to make any sudden movements.
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    I voted to legalize marijuana in Oregon as I didn't think people belonged in prison for smoking a joint, and I'm not opposed to responsible use of marijuana, or alcohol.

    Many of my patients have found CBD oil helpful for pain, such as painful joints from arthritis. I've seen a patient with severe tics for 20 years that didn't respond to any standard medical treatment, and his tics have been well controlled with medical marijuana. Pain often makes it difficult to sleep, and many people have found using it before bed helps to decrease pain as well as helps with sleep. Legalization has increased the ability to do research on the medical benefits of cannabis, although it's not snake oil and is not a cure all.

    Sixty percent of traffic fatalities in OR and WA the past couple of years have had marijuana in their bloodstream, although that doesn't necessarily mean that they were intoxicated. Unfortunately, we don't have adequate means of determining intoxication and impairment. I sometimes worry about my children driving with so many people on the road impaired from lack of sleep, distracted by texting, impaired from their medications, or intoxicated from alcohol and now marijuana.

    Heavy marijuana use in early adolescence, e.g. 12 - 14 years old, can cause irreversible brain damage with a permanent lowering of IQ by ten points. This only occurs with heavy use, use multiple times daily, and does not occur in older age groups.

    Although cannabis is legal in Oregon, people can still lose their job if cannabis, or alcohol, is found on a routine drug screen at their place of work. They might not have even used on the day in question as small amounts can be detected for a prolonged period of time. Testing positive might also make you more liable if involved in an MVA, or an accident at work, even if not impaired.

    Marijuana can have serious consequences in vulnerable populations, such as those with a severe depressive illness, schizophrenia, or bipolar disorder. There are also many drug interactions between marijuana and many medications, increasing blood levels, therefore side effects, of some drugs, while lowering blood levels and decreasing effectiveness of others. For example, marijuana appears helpful for some types of breast cancer, although large amounts might decrease the blood level of Tamoxifen, a commonly used medication for treatment of breast cancer.

    Some people do develop a serious problem with cannabis abuse or dependence, and have difficulty controlling use, even when it's decreasing their ability to function in many life activities.

    Most people are able to use marijuana responsibly. Although I've voiced some of my concerns, I would still vote or its legalization if it came up for a vote again. We shouldn't be prosecuting the majority who use it responsibly, and we shouldn't be restricting it's use for people with medical conditions that might benefit from it.
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