Thread: Kilts!

Originally Posted by MickR

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And as far as I'm concerned, the bloody Scots should wear the Kilt as an everyday thing. Or do they think of themselves as English these days?!


Mick

It was only ever worn by the highland clans, lowland scots have no more claim to it than I do.

However I'm surprised as many scots still wear it at all. Recent years have saw a backlash against what they call the "tartan and shortbread" image of Scotland. As they push for independence they want to promote Scotland as a modern country.
Can't forget your history or culture either though

Traditional Welsh dress Mick?

Originally Posted by Bigirishkev

It was only ever worn by the highland clans, lowland scots have no more claim to it than I do.

However I'm surprised as many scots still wear it at all. Recent years have saw a backlash against what they call the "tartan and shortbread" image of Scotland. As they push for independence they want to promote Scotland as a modern country.
Can't forget your history or culture either though

I reckon they would best display their independence by bringing the Kilt back into vogue rather than turfing it altogether. These days, Scots Highlander or Lowlander, Welsh, Irish, Manx or any other Celtic blood, there's a Kilt made for you. If they want to be seen as Modern, try that idea on instead of pants. Just my thoughts on the subject and of absolutely no worth within this forum. Perhaps I should write to the Scottish assembly and tell 'em how to behave .


Mick

Originally Posted by Bigirishkev

Traditional Welsh dress Mick?

'Traditional' Welsh dress is a modern invention and not all that traditional at all...But lose the Puritan hat on that lady, and I'm all for it.

Originally Posted by Bigirishkev

It was only ever worn by the highland clans, lowland scots have no more claim to it than I do.

However I'm surprised as many scots still wear it at all. Recent years have saw a backlash against what they call the "tartan and shortbread" image of Scotland. As they push for independence they want to promote Scotland as a modern country.
Can't forget your history or culture either though

The whole kilt and tartan thing is largely A Victorian invention. The kilts that were actually worn traditionally in the Highlands bears little resemblance to what we think of as kilts today.

They are comfy though.

Don't get me wrong now lads, I'm a massive fan of the kilt and would love something like that as an Irish national dress. Traditionally we wore something similar but it would have been yellow instead of tartan

Originally Posted by MickR

'Traditional' Welsh dress is a modern invention and not all that traditional at all...But lose the Puritan hat on that lady, and I'm all for it.

You can't lose the hat, it's all about the hat!

Originally Posted by Bigirishkev

You can't lose the hat, it's all about the hat!

Well let's update it to something like this kind of hat then...Just a little shorter than the one in you pic





Mick

Cangooner is correct ....... back in the times whatever the weaver had on hand as far as wool and pattern was what was offered to the locals. If that village happened to be full of a certain clan then that's about as close to clan tartan as you would've gotten. There was a huge rush to invent official clan identity after Victoria lifted all the bans. I can't speak for Scotland but I know there are some over there that are hardcore about their kilts and identity. Bless'em. Irish and Welsh gotte'em too I just know it. As for the rest of Scotland...up to them what they want to do with their identity. But just for the sake of arguments.....if they want to get rid of the kilt,I'll take it cause it's a fine garment.The only way you're gonna keep it alive it to do so.

I'm off for a bit now, but before I go, I'll just add, I’m all for the Kilt, and as far as traditional Welsh dress goes, it was a 19th century invention based on farmers wives field clothing. All well and good, as that seemed to have taken off, and it was in aid of national identity, but the ‘traditional’ dress invented for men, in particular for the rich mining magnates, wife’s, harpist (it was the wife that did all the 'inventing' of traditional dress) never took off, and was a bit of a mish mash at best. I’m all for re-inventing the Welsh men’s costume and having a Kilt as part of the ensemble. Maybe I ought to write to the Welsh Assembly and have them put it to the vote . The Kilt would be just as valid as the rest of the traditional dress worn by Welsh women. :0


Mick