Favorite Guns

We would be very pleased :y

As far as I am concerned, a major difference between European (at least French) and American people is the relationship with individual freedom. For instance, an American has an atavistic distrust of the Government while a Frenchman worships the Government, like a golden calf. But the lack of faith in individual freedom also means a lack of individual responsibility. For us (I do not include myself nor Meeme because we sometimes feel like strangers in our own country), the Government must have an answer to EVERY problem. IMHO the right to defend oneself is strongly linked to the right to life. Denying someone the right to bear a gun for self-defense purpose is like denying him to live. I think a kind of NRA lobby in France will attract no more than 0.1% of the population! Maybe Switzerland is the European country that is the most close to the USA on individual freedom issues.

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Originally Posted by Steel Angel

We would be very pleased :y

As far as I am concerned, a major difference between European (at least French) and American people is the relationship with individual freedom. For instance, an American has an atavistic distrust of the Government while a Frenchman worships the Government, like a golden calf. But the lack of faith in individual freedom also means a lack of individual responsibility. For us (I do not include myself nor Meeme because we sometimes feel like strangers in our own country), the Government must have an answer to EVERY problem. IMHO the right to defend oneself is strongly linked to the right to life. Denying someone the right to bear a gun for self-defense purpose is like denying him to live. I think a kind of NRA lobby in France will attract no more than 0.1% of the population! Maybe Switzerland is the European country that is the most close to the USA on individual freedom issues.

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Steel Angel,
There is a lot of insight in your post. Unfortunately there are many here in the USA who also feel the government should be their personal golden calf, and become very vexed when one suggests there are things one should do for him or herself...

Hopefully you gentlemen do get to make the trip and do some shooting. Time at the range is quite a bit of fun, and nothing at all like any of the more serious uses for firearms, including, to allow one to remain alive. I like your right to life argument.

John P.

if i was american and had the followtrought to get a type IV (i think) license i would get those babies.

oasis

i'm not so i'll keep on loving my antonio zolli .12 and winchester semi auto .22

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Originally Posted by shilum

if i was american and had the followtrought to get a type IV (i think) license i would get those babies.

oasis

i'm not so i'll keep on loving my antonio zolli .12 and winchester semi auto .22

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that particular weapon is a class 3 firearm, governed by the NFA of 1934. (or 39, i can never remember). you don't need a license, per se, just a LOT of paperwork and signatures from local law enforcement acknowledging the transfer. it's not illegal to own, it's only taxed at the point of sale, and rather steeply at that.

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Originally Posted by jockeys

that particular weapon is a class 3 firearm, governed by the NFA of 1934. (or 39, i can never remember). you don't need a license, per se, just a LOT of paperwork and signatures from local law enforcement acknowledging the transfer. it's not illegal to own, it's only taxed at the point of sale, and rather steeply at that.

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Of course, your gonna want some sub-sonic ammo too. :D I am guessing you have to make that yourself....Not that .22 rounds are all that loud to begin with...

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Originally Posted by sicboater

Of course, your gonna want some sub-sonic ammo too. :D I am guessing you have to make that yourself....Not that .22 rounds are all that loud to begin with...

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guess again sub sonic .22 ;)

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Originally Posted by sicboater

Of course, your gonna want some sub-sonic ammo too. :D I am guessing you have to make that yourself....Not that .22 rounds are all that loud to begin with...

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you can't handload rimfire ammunition anyway. several manufacturers make subsonic stuff. a lot of match grade stuff is subsonic, so that it doesn't go transsonic on the longer shots and screw your accuracy up.

My match mule on top (M1A Supermatch), Winchester 52D below. Classic match rifles.

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Guns...what wonderful things they are.... Here are some of my favorites:

H&K 91
H&K 93
H&K USP .45
FN 49
Colt AR-15 both 223 and 9mm
M1 Garand
Remington 700...7mm Mag
Remington 870 12 ga
Browning A-5 sweet 16
Ithaca side by side 16ga
Browning Citori 12, 20, 16 gauges
S&W Mod 41
S&W Mod 17
Wilson Combat 1911


there are more, but I've got to get ready for work.:D

I have no favorite I love them all. If I had to pick only one it would be the marlin 45/70 guide gun. This will kill anything needed and I can swing it from the pasenger seat to the window of the truck from behind the steering wheel. as for handgun carry I like my keltec P3AT for summer and the good ole Colt 1911 in the winter. Boy that John Browning was truely a smart man. the 1911 is still THE GUN to carry in my opinion. Glock is great but how can you argue the .45ACP in the 1911 for simple effective firepower. And thanks to our French members for reminding me to thank God for the right to keep and bear arms. And ask God that that right not be infrenged in November no matter who wins.

Don