Thread: Guns Guns and MORE Guns

Originally Posted by Grizzley1

I read somewhere once that more people have been killed by. 22 than any other caliber, don't know if it's true but possible. Your right, shot placement is key.

I would expect 7.62x54R were the total known?

Originally Posted by slim6596

I know someone who would be on the news for a federal investigation if people found out how many guns and rounds he had stockpiled.

Shhhhhhh....!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by sharptonn

I would expect 7.62x54R were the total known?

During war time....probably. But everyday shootings..... 22 probably rules

Statistically, within the United States anyway, that would be the 22 Long Rifle cartridge.

The 22 bolt action rifle is the most common of all firearms, found in the household of nearly every gun owner. Even if you hate guns, chances are you have one of these in attic or in storage that you inherited from a relative. They have been used in many suicides and acts of domestic violence.

Back in the 1960s and continuing well past the 90s, the most common handgun used in street crime was the “Saturday Night Special”… a derogatory term used by anti-gun politicians to refer to inexpensive handguns marketed primarily to poor people. Often, the frames were made from cast zinc alloy and they were unsafe to carry with a round chambered because they tended to discharge if dropped. The RG-14 snub revolver and the Jennings J-22 were both extremely popular with a retail price of about $75… both were chambered for 22 Long Rifle and they have been recovered from thousands of crime scenes.

The reason the 22 Long Rifle has killed so many people is because it is so popular. These guns are everywhere, even in gun free zones like NYC and Chicago, where most gun crimes seem to occur. A gun runner can use a straw buyer to purchase a case of cheap 22 pistols at a discount, close to $50 per unit, then resell them to gang members for $300 each. That is a bigger profit than selling cocaine with less risk, and why a gangbanger is more likely to have a zinc 22 than a far more expensive Glock.

This is just statistics… sort of like trivia… the 22 Long Rifle is actually far less deadly than most other calibers and used extensively for target shooting, from plinking to competition. Most of the guns chambered for 22 Long Rifle are deemed so innocuous they are specifically excluded from many gun bans.

Originally Posted by outback

Yes, the .22 cal. is considered a very lethal round for two reasons.

Hypervelocity
Ricochet

It has a tendency to change direction, once it contacts bone.

So true. Years ago I had a friend that was accidentally shot in the leg by his brother while out hunting. 22 caliber. The bullet struck my friend's femur on the side just above the kneee, then traveled along the femur toward the hip, hit the hip and exited out the rear of his hip area. Extensive damage for a small round with quite a bit of surgery to patch things up. Nasty scar about 20" long.

Unfortunatley, I sold many of my guns over the last 10 years, but I kept my Remmington Pump 12 gauge, a 22 caliber bolt action rifle (Marlin), a 22 handgun automatic (Taurus), a 357 handgun revolver (Ruger) and a Smith and Wesson Sigma 40 caliber automatic. I really wish I'd kept my Browning 20 gauge pump and Beretta Over and Under 20 Gauge that I used to use for Pheasant hunting, and my collection of handguns that included 9 MM and 45 caliber.

I doubt overall that the 22LR has killed as many people as any one of the standard military rounds used in conflicts over the last 150 years or so.

Bob

I always rationalized my .22 short Beretta minx a handy but ineffective, deterrent as it will poke 7 holes in someone's body, giving them something else to worry about.....and it's a fun plinker.

Originally Posted by BobH

I doubt overall that the 22LR has killed as many people as any one of the standard military rounds used in conflicts over the last 150 years or so.

Bob

I should have predicted this,stop being a troll,it wasn't an offical statement, but it is the first rimfire that S&W made as a pocket pistol. Just an interesting factoid...

In reality.... the 7.62x39 and AK-47, Have the trophy, for most people killed by.

That's the truth..!! And its worldwide

Originally Posted by Grizzley1

I should have predicted this,stop being a troll,it wasn't an offical statement, but it is the first rimfire that S&W made as a pocket pistol. Just an interesting factoid...

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Of all the troll-like behaviour online these days, a simple statement about ammunition that was nothing more than an expression of opinion ranks pretty low on the trollometer.