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I have been thinking about getting a .22 conversion for my 1911 and hadn't heard of the Nelson version. Any advantage to this one over the GSG? The GSG is waaay cheaper so I'm pretty sure that's the way I'll go. But if there are advantages to the Nelson, I'd at least consider it.

It's really just for plinking at the range, so I'm not too terribly worried about it working first time every time.

Originally Posted by Cangooner

I have been thinking about getting a .22 conversion for my 1911 and hadn't heard of the Nelson version. Any advantage to this one over the GSG? The GSG is waaay cheaper so I'm pretty sure that's the way I'll go. But if there are advantages to the Nelson, I'd at least consider it.

It's really just for plinking at the range, so I'm not too terribly worried about it working first time every time.

Quality and accuracy, pretty much on par in accuracy with a S&W Model 41. If you looking for a little less expensive one take a look at Advantage Arms, they also have a pinker model and a target model. Had a target model years ago and it was very nice. Certainly quality is well above GSG. I have a GSG 1911 .22 that I have replaced all the parts that I can to aftermarket parts from CW Acessories. It’s now a great plate table gun but still not a bullseye. In my opinion GSG and quality can’t be used in the same sentence. Really think you would be much happier with the Advantage Arms.

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The gsg 1911 is cheap, and realistically you get what you pay for. But it's a nice plinker and can be upgraded easily without too much expense.

Here in the UK we are very limited in access to semi auto .22 pistols and the gsg 1911 is one of only 3 I've came across, so the hold value well. Normally around the £350 to £450 mark.

I got mine at £125 though.

Originally Posted by TheGeek

The gsg 1911 is cheap, and realistically you get what you pay for. But it's a nice plinker and can be upgraded easily without too much expense.

Here in the UK we are very limited in access to semi auto .22 pistols and the gsg 1911 is one of only 3 I've came across, so the hold value well. Normally around the £350 to £450 mark.

I got mine at £125 though.

I have not sold mine, they are very good plinkers for the price. With the upgrades that I did to mine, it is a fantastic plate table gun, too. Can you get CW Acessories parts over there. I was thinking that they now were able to do some international shipping. I only wish someone would make a quality sear for them as a standard 1911 sear will not work. With a good quality sear and sear hammer fit, you could get a very good trigger pull. The sear pin hole is smaller than a standard 1911 and so I can’t even get the sear into one of my sear jigs.

Originally Posted by apipeguy

I have not sold mine, they are very good plinkers for the price. With the upgrades that I did to mine, it is a fantastic plate table gun, too. Can you get CW Acessories parts over there. I was thinking that they now were able to do some international shipping. I only wish someone would make a quality sear for them as a standard 1911 sear will not work. With a good quality sear and sear hammer fit, you could get a very good trigger pull. The sear pin hole is smaller than a standard 1911 and so I can’t even get the sear into one of my sear jigs.

You can, via an importer, there are one or two. Most parts are reasonable but for the likes of a new slide you are looking at twice what I paid for my gun.

Geek

There's been chat on other places I go about cheap guns. Personally I woukd never turn away from a gun, I am a believer that with some effort almost every gun can be functional.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by TheGeek

There's been chat on other places I go about cheap guns. Personally I woukd never turn away from a gun, I am a believer that with some effort almost every gun can be functional.

Thoughts?

Absolutely agree and often far more than functional. My daughter’s first gun that I bought her was a Rock Island 1911 and I paid 250 for it used. Did some work on it and changed a few parts. That cheap gun is 100% reliable and the trigger is as good as any of my Wilsons. It is also extremely accurate, as accurate as it can be with GI sights.

Had a KelTec P3AT that was my backup/pocket gun when I was in the Detective Bureau, a 220 dollar gun that I would bet my life on and that never failed me.

My GSG1911 is/was a cheap gun, I’ve replaced a lot and done a lot of work on it and it is a fantastic plate table gun.

Have friends with very inexpensive guns that are just as they came from the factory and are very reliable, accurate guns.

I certainly believe that you get what you pay for but at times we are lucky and get far more than what we paid for.

Originally Posted by TheGeek

There's been chat on other places I go about cheap guns. Personally I woukd never turn away from a gun, I am a believer that with some effort almost every gun can be functional.

Thoughts?

I agree 100%! A little elbow grease and effort and even the old dogs can be made to run right.

I got a Remington Model 11 many years ago as a basket case. Guy said "I'm only selling this for parts, I don't recommend you shoot it". I paid $60 USD for it and after looking it over, I was shooting it in the next few days. I put $60 more dollars into it and now I shoot it all the time! I had to buy a new friction ring, keeper screw, and a semi fitted buttstock. After tearing it down (it was full of dog hair and quail feathers and years of crud) and cleaning it I was pleased with my handiwork. I fit the stock and put a little linseed oil on it and there it is.

I called Remington and gave them the serial number and they told me it was made in 1914. I think she's got a few more years in her.

Originally Posted by TheGeek

There's been chat on other places I go about cheap guns. Personally I woukd never turn away from a gun, I am a believer that with some effort almost every gun can be functional.

Thoughts?

"Functional", yes. Reliable and precise, well that's a whole different story.

Originally Posted by TheGeek

There's been chat on other places I go about cheap guns. Personally I woukd never turn away from a gun, I am a believer that with some effort almost every gun can be functional.

Thoughts?

I worked in a LGS for a few years and there are several guns that made me cringe. Most around the $200-250 mark BNIB. The Taurus PT111/Millenium G2 was one of those guns that I wouldn't trust my life with. I'd accept it if it was given to me, but it would probably get thrown in a glove box and forgotten about. I can actually drop the magazine using my trigger finger, have had magazines drop free due to recoil and had trigger safeties fail.The SCCY CPX-2 was another one that I hated selling. They seemed to be reliable enough...but had the ergonomics of a brick and weren't pleasant to shoot. I saw a some pretty gnarly slide bite from those as well.

On the other side of the coin, Rock River/Armscorr make very nice 1911s for the money. Their 2011 stands out for me. I've seen a guy shoot circles around people with STIs with one of those (heavily modified, of course, but the cost of admission is a huge bonus).