Thread: Any handrolled cigarette smokers?

Originally Posted by MickR

If you have any suggestions as to what to do about it, I'm all ears mate. But before you suggest it, I'm lacking supporters for an all out coup to take over this country and run it the way it should be... Just ask Grizzley1...He's waiting, and hoping still...


Mick

+1 with regard to the UK, soon we will all be reduced to serfdom, Living in the UK is already a page from a Charles Dickens novel.

Originally Posted by MickR

If you have any suggestions as to what to do about it, I'm all ears mate. But before you suggest it, I'm lacking supporters for an all out coup to take over this country and run it the way it should be... Just ask Grizzley1...He's waiting, and hoping still...


Mick

Well, really, I think most things are cheaper in the US compared to most Western countries just due to some cost of living quirk, I don't pretend to know economic theory. That includes tobacco products. Plus we don't have a national health care system, for better or for worse, so our government doesn't care as much about vice taxes. It all comes with a trade off.

Originally Posted by ChesterCopperpot

Well, really, I think most things are cheaper in the US compared to most Western countries just due to some cost of living quirk, I don't pretend to know economic theory. That includes tobacco products. Plus we don't have a national health care system, for better or for worse, so our government doesn't care as much about vice taxes. It all comes with a trade off.

Often people assume that our national health care system is free it's not, we pay for it by way of national insurance contributions these are calculated as a percentage of gross income and are deducted from the pay packet at the same time as income tax.
How this would compare in terms of cost on an annual basis to private healthcare I'm not sure about, whilst we are guaranteed (at the moment, this could change) a no fee medical treatment element, the situation is very different for long term sick / disabled benefits, they come from the same 'pot' but our government is on a mission to force virtually anyone who breathes and has a pulse back into work, regardless of what a claimants doctor / specialist has to say about their inability to work.

bull durham in a sack when times were tight. mostly my handrolls looked like joints because they were

I'm going to the states later this year to see my son, what would be the closest equivalent American tobacco to Golden Virginia?

Our health system is a bloody shambles, yet we are told that taxes on things like alcohol and tobacco go into paying for it...As well as a portion of everybodys income tax...So with all that money, considering that taxes on smokes and grog goes up every six months, you would think we would have the best health system in the world...I was waiting to have my tonsils out for over 20 years. Now I pay for private cover, which is supposed to be better, and to a point it is, but all you get for your money is priority over the unwashed masses. You have to pay for everything that you have done on top of the fees that you already pay for the private cover in the first place. Some is able to be claimed back, but not bloody much! Abd noww I am tonsil, and tonsilitis free. My wallet is still feeling the pain, even after two years.


Mick

Tobacco smoking is good for the nation's finances. Taxes and excises and less cost of state pensions due to a smoker dying on average 10 years earlier than a non-smoker easily outweigh the increased health care costs of smokers.

Originally Posted by osdset

I'm going to the states later this year to see my son, what would be the closest equivalent American tobacco to Golden Virginia?

For me an 18 oz bag of tobacco and 4 boxes of tubes is $27 us dollars and that last me a month or so.

Originally Posted by osdset

I'm going to the states later this year to see my son, what would be the closest equivalent American tobacco to Golden Virginia?

I'm not familiar with Golden Virginia, but anything Peter Stokebye is good. If you prefer something a little more mellow I'd go with the Danish Import, London Export, or Stockholm Blend. Amsterdam Shag is their heaviest and my preferred smoke. Their turkish blend isn't bad either.

Originally Posted by Martin103

For me an 18 oz bag of tobacco and 4 boxes of tubes is $27 us dollars and that last me a month or so.

Right, that works out to less than £1 per oz, I am lost for words.