How many people CCW here?

Also just the design of that projectile, seems like it would be a "Feed" nightmare for any 2 piece throat & ramp auto.

My two primary carry guns:

Kimber Custom CDP II 5"
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S&W M&P Pro Series 9mm 5"
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For IWB on the Kimber, I use a Comp-Tac Minotaur MTAC. For OWB, I use an Andrews Custom Leathers Hybrid Saddle Style holster and dual mag holster.

On the M&P, for IWB, I use a Comp-Tac Minotaur MTAC. For OWB, I use a Comp-Tac belt holster and dual mag carrier.

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

Just saw the specs on these R.I.P. rounds
Has anyone seen them or shot them yet ???

The New Ammunition That Has Gun Owners Drooling | The Liberty Digest

Makes the old Silvertips, Black Talons, & Golden Sabers look tame by comparison

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Dude I like the looks of that!

Stationed in Florida ... I'm in the Military so to and from work.. no carry due to base restrictions.. But for the most part... I carry... Usually my Glock 23 which is 40 S&W... But when that's too bulky for my cloths.. I carry the wifes... Ruger 22... Not a lot, but better than nothing...

-Brad-

that Ruger 22 loaded with CCI Stingers will get the job done.

Yup... That's what we load in it..

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Originally Posted by Mephisto

Ok, I am not an enthusiast, someone posted these rounds on FB, but I have some questions. I am not trying to be anti-gun here. I am fine with gun ownership, but given that these can pass through a person and other things with ease just seems insane, am I being insane?

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Many bullets pass through people with ease. Based on the videos, that round is not going near as deep into tissue as a traditional round. Breaking into small pieces means there's less momentum to drive the projectile pieces once they hit something solid. The multiple small wound channels may look bad, but smaller shallow holes might not necessarily bleed more than one (or two) big hole(s).

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Originally Posted by wrxguyusa

Many bullets pass through people with ease. Based on the videos, that round is not going near as deep into tissue as a traditional round. Breaking into small pieces means there's less momentum to drive the projectile pieces once they hit something solid. The multiple small wound channels may look bad, but smaller shallow holes might not necessarily bleed more than one (or two) big hole(s).

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Trust me: I'm a retired Navy doc trained in battlefield trauma, and the RIP technology appears to be capable of producing horrendous wounds based on its performance in the videos.

If the ballistic gel used in those videos was the standard mix, then the initial wound cavity with those rounds is HUGE, and one would expect LOTS of tissue damage, and lots of bleeding...assuming that the heart is still beating. And any wound that includes shrapnel (which is what that round produces) is a surgeon's nightmare. Then there's the core slug that lies behind the flechettes; as you can see in the videos, it has plenty of energy left after it sheds the flechettes...enough that it traverses the entire length of the ballistic gel block. I'd be concerned about overpenetration if it doesn't hit anything solid enough to stop it.

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

Just saw the specs on these R.I.P. rounds
Has anyone seen them or shot them yet ???

The New Ammunition That Has Gun Owners Drooling | The Liberty Digest

Makes the old Silvertips, Black Talons, & Golden Sabers look tame by comparison

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I find the ammo quite interesting & looks like it would be a excellent defense round. Found a box of 20 on gunbroker, a active auction, and they are currently at $242! Can you believe that? Here's the link: G2 RESEARCH 9MM RIP ROUNDS BOX OF 20 : Pistol Ammunition at GunBroker.com

LOL and we complain about crazy bidding on Razors :p