Thread: Glock vs. M&P?

I carried a Model 23 Glock .40 S & W for about 10 years. Never had a problem of any kind nor did any of the other officers i served with have any problems. Nothing mechanical is perfect as far as reliability goes. But these pistols come about as close as you can get. I have no expierence with the M & P.

Carried a Glock for the last 10 of my 33 years in L.E. It never failed me when extreme prejudice was needed. Only other handgun to hit my holster with as much confidence is my 1911. Sorry to the Glock & Wesson guys, but the only S&W I would own is a wheel gun.

Remember your handgun is only there to be able to fight your way back to your rifle, which you should have never put down in the first place.

Whatever fits your hand and you can shoot best with. Personally I went with Glock. Also a certified Glock armorer.

Costabro, I feel I must reply to this in a more objective manner, hopefully, so forgive me if I go off on a tangent. I have fired many handguns to include Glocks and S&W's M&P. Neither of them gave me any problems. However I have only fired maybe a few hundred rounds through them. My wife owns the Glock and the M&P was that of friends who wanted my opinion on how it handled. With that said.

I believe Glocks are largely popular due to the marketing and reputation that they have. The M&P series have not been around as long as Glock has so they have a lot of catching up to do and honestly have not found anything to be negative about them other than, someone has already mentioned it, they don't feel right in the hand. My response to that statement is a Glock doesn't feel right in my hand. But I use a 1911 style for work and carry 1911 style (being a practically straight pistol grip with no cant) so of course a Glock does not feel right in my hand. With that said, I do not use either a Glock nor a M&P so I can not give a fair assessment of either.

So my advice will be the same that I will tell anybody. Do the research, especially for reliability. No offense here to anybody, but don't just take so&so's word for it. Research hard facts, they are out there. I would also caution against so called experts in magazine reviews. I will not go into a spout here, but think about the source, there experience/profession, etc. Then either go to a gun store/range and rent both, or borrow a friends, whatever so you can shoot both weapons and handle them. That will provide a lot of good feedback for you to make your decision with. Combine research, actual handling of each weapon to include shooting them, and thoughts/suggestions of those who have, carry, and use both, you will then have made making a decision a lot easier.

My personal opinion since I am looking to get a new pistol: Glocks are very reputable and are used by both military and police with great success. I have nothing against them. M&P's I know are used by some police and that's about it to MY knowledge. My research into them (several months worth) has not found anything wrong with them. So I plan on going with the M&P. Why? They are made in 'Merica by an American company. And because again, I work with and currently own frames very similar to the M&P.

So for the long post, but I hope you find it helpful.

Best of luck to you. Either way you go I am sure you will be pleased.

So.....what ya'll are saying is........Glock? Ha. Second question. I'm not going to competition shoot it, but use it as a home defense back up and carry it from time to time. When I go to the range, that's what I bring. SO! I bought a new connector to reduce the trigger pull to about 4.5 lbs (started to get the whole new 3.5 spring kit, but didn't want to pay my gunsmith to install it) that I can install myself. The question is, will that be a dangerous pull to use as a carry weapon? I've never had a pistol with any trigger mods.

Originally Posted by Costabro

So.....what ya'll are saying is........Glock? Ha. Second question. I'm not going to competition shoot it, but use it as a home defense back up and carry it from time to time. When I go to the range, that's what I bring. SO! I bought a new connector to reduce the trigger pull to about 4.5 lbs (started to get the whole new 3.5 spring kit, but didn't want to pay my gunsmith to install it) that I can install myself. The question is, will that be a dangerous pull to use as a carry weapon? I've never had a pistol with any trigger mods.

My G-23 was bought from a friend years ago. He had a 3 1/2 pound disconnect trigger. I shot it like that for awhile but had an armorer change it to standard, I think it is 5 1/2 or 6. I have a lot of range time shooting double action with revolvers so a heavier pull is comfortable for me.

On a target gun like a Gold Cup I want a light trigger but on a defense gun I don't want to have my finger on the trigger and be surprised by a loud noise i didn't intend.

There will be debate on this question,,
My thoughts are no trigger jobs on any of my weapons, but then again, I'm not a handgun competitor either. I have carried a Polish P-64 as a CCW, the hardest first round trigger pull outside of a Nagant revolver that I have found. When I have had to used my CCW, I never noticed the amount of pull. ( Disclaimer: it was a 1911 at the time )

Your weapon should shoot fine out of the box, with no adjustments. Just practice with it, don't buy it, put just 50 rounds through it, then carry for years. Train with it & most importantly, have it with you all the time. It's no good in the glovebox, when your standing at the counter of the Waffle House along the highway, 3am.

Stick with the stock trigger until you know the gun very well. I would leave it stock if it for home defense first for reliablity and second for liability reasons. Although you can be on the right side of the criminal law if you have to defend yourself with the glock, you can end up on the wrong side of a civil action that could follow. They will point to the modified trigger pull and try to say that it was an accident or you're some kind of gunslinger wannabe. Just my two cents.

I'm basically a 1911 man myself, but I have fired both the Glock and the S&W. I prefer the Glock, but personally don't like the forward cant of the grip for "instinct" shooting. I keep forgetting about the angle and shoot high. You made the right decision, however. The Glock has it hands down over the S&W. BTW, you must shoot jacketed bullets with the Glock, or it will foul up really bad.

Originally Posted by Costabro

So.....what ya'll are saying is........Glock? Ha. Second question. I'm not going to competition shoot it, but use it as a home defense back up and carry it from time to time. When I go to the range, that's what I bring. SO! I bought a new connector to reduce the trigger pull to about 4.5 lbs (started to get the whole new 3.5 spring kit, but didn't want to pay my gunsmith to install it) that I can install myself. The question is, will that be a dangerous pull to use as a carry weapon? I've never had a pistol with any trigger mods.

like JimmyHAD said , id keep the trigger pull a bit heavier , if you have to draw your pistol and actually get to the point where your finger is gonna be on the trigger for the sake of your adrenalin and all the other excitement id want the stock trigger pull... and as others have stated ... PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE !!! i admit with cost of ammo and range fees i dont shoot as much as i should , but another key part of practice ( especially for a carry gun ) is drawing the gun out of your holster , and wearing the gun in the best spot for you and wearing it there all the time ... i do that DAILY , i draw the gun and pull right up to a specific thing on the wall or whatever it is .. ( unloaded ) then look down the sites ... at first id notice i was off a bit , after practice im pretty confident now when/if i draw the gun it is gonna be on target where im looking ... this is just my opinion but i think it helps better prepare me just in case