I can find a piece of pipe that will stick through both sides of the forge but I will have to check on accessibility to the razor before I fire it up. I should be taking notes on all this. Then again I am pulling the trigger on a small oven this week and I will have notes right in the Rampmaster controller. Should be able to store original recipe I use and program 11 more with the changes I want to make without losing the original. I have a great toaster oven for immediate tempering after. Thought I remembered Charlie saying something about that in 1 of his Vids.