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    Default Old files. So sad...

    Specifically, what is sad is that old tools are often much better than new tools.
    I've bought many files on flea markets, for the purpose of using them as knife stock.
    Some time ago I sorted them in 2 piles: ones that still cut, and ones that don't.

    This weekend I've forged a couple of knives, and I started shaping the blanks with my small belt sander. Frustrated with the slow progress and the fact that I was running out of belts, I turned to the files. Most of them are old nicholson files. Most of them are rusty. And yet they eat carbon steel faster than anything I've ever tried, excepting only my angle grinder. They make m Bahco files turn red with shame. And it's nice that they are solid tool steel. So if they ever lose their edge, I can use them for stock. My bahcos aren't good for that either.

    I was so impressed in fact that I decided that I would buy a set of new nicholson files. Because if these old ones with rusty spots and slightly worn teeth did this, a new file would be even better... yet from what I've read on various sites, the truth is different. Nicholson has moved their production facility and are now turning out files that reviewers have strong reservations about.

    I'll have to keep looking. Perhaps there are still file makers that make solid tool steel files that are durable.
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    Yes, the old Nicholson 10" bastard files are worth their weight in gold.
    I hunt antique stores & thrift store regularly for them. They make a great addition to any survival pack or tool box. Clean the rust away and the teeth are usually still sharp.
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    An old metal shop teacher of mine once told me that if you compleatly degrease a file that pour hydrochloric acid on it sparingly,it will over a shot period, re-cut the orig teeth, never tried it tho.
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    I watched it twice but am a little confused yet. Is he making new ones or reworking old ones?

    I better be careful here. I haven't used the saw vices I bought yet. All that I need is another idea to sharpen something else.

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    He's making a new file from flat bar stock. It will need to be hardened after the teeth are set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirlau View Post
    Yes, the old Nicholson 10" bastard files are worth their weight in gold.
    I hunt antique stores & thrift store regularly for them. They make a great addition to any survival pack or tool box. Clean the rust away and the teeth are usually still sharp.
    I have a couple with surface corrosion. I use those for cleaning up after forging.
    I have 2 that are still good. 1 is used but well cared for. the other was mint.
    the used one is 12 inch and has a clean surface.
    the mint one is 14 inch. and I do mean just the cutting surface
    There are just no words to describe how the mint one handles... this is what filing should be like. This is probably the only audience I know that would understand me getting softhearted about something like a file.


    Seriously. I love this file.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knTvHRz_qnU
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    make I will probably hunt for old nicholson files for the foreseeable future.
    There is also good news however. There is a German brand called 'Pferd' that is said to be at least as good as Nicholson used to be. My colleague at least told me that they are as good as it gets. And they still make those like they used to. I'll probably end up buying one just to see it that is true.

    The more I learn to appreciate old tools, the more I realize that most people I know are a bunch of philistines when it comes to tools.
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