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Thread: Help please: burglary leads
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07-21-2009, 03:18 PM #11
Because all of the razors you have pictured have been out of production for quite some time the chances of getting a set like that together in one place is not easy and would take a long time. The chances of getting the identical set together with the pitting, stains, scales material makes it more unlikely. Adding the hone wear that is clearly visible along with the pitting, stains, scales and makes that match your photo would make it impossible to match. The pitting, staining and hone wear matched to the make of blade and scales would make each razor as unique as a used tire thread or a finger print. Put them together in one grouping and it is probably as unique as DNA.
Can't help you on the actual value of the items. You can't go by what you paid for them. There are books that would help you appraise the value. If I remember when I get home CarrieM or I will give you the title of the book we use. It doesn't list each and every razor ever made and the appraised value is subject to interpertation.
Good luck.“If you always do what you always did, you will always get what you always got.” (A. Einstein)
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Del1r1um (07-21-2009)
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07-21-2009, 03:31 PM #12
well the restored razors would be truly unique, so it depends on how well you can see unique features of the grain of the wood and the micarta on your photos, combined with the shape of these scales i'd say it's enough evidence.
and then any defects on any razors visible on the photos will make it even further.
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Del1r1um (07-21-2009)
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07-21-2009, 03:35 PM #13
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Thanked: 22Because all of the razors you have pictured have been out of production for quite some time the chances of getting a set like that together in one place is not easy and would take a long time. The chances of getting the identical set together with the pitting, stains, scales material makes it more unlikely. Adding the hone wear that is clearly visible along with the pitting, stains, scales and makes that match your photo would make it impossible to match. The pitting, staining and hone wear matched to the make of blade and scales would make each razor as unique as a used tire thread or a finger print. Put them together in one grouping and it is probably as unique as DNA.
None of these razors are garden variety Gencos or King Cutters, and certainly the ones with custom scales are as close to one-of-a-kind as makes no difference. The likelihood of finding an identical collection of six razors is, for all practical intents and purposes, nil.
Sorry for your trouble
goshawkLast edited by goshawk; 07-21-2009 at 03:38 PM.
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Del1r1um (07-21-2009)
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07-21-2009, 04:41 PM #14
Dude this sucks. I know first hand- my place was cleaned out once, all of my dad's vet equipment, and my grandparents place two and a half (the third time wasn't a total clean out, just about half). One of the many reasons we left South Africa. My heart goes out to you man.
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Del1r1um (07-21-2009)
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07-21-2009, 05:24 PM #15
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Thanked: 105When they (lawenforcement) ask for unquie identifyers, they really want something that is with out doubt. Such as ID numbers VIN numbers, something that identifies that item.
If you have better pictures of the customs that show the wood grain that would help. Wood grain is like a finger print, no two are the same,they could match that. Same thing with the others, the pitting on the blade, for example, could be matched. But you have to have a good picture to make a match.
Having seen many jury cases, if this goes to trail, if there is doubt they walk.
Hope this helps.
Tim
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Del1r1um (07-21-2009)
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07-21-2009, 10:25 PM #16
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Thanked: 278+1 on finding original, unedited image files.
You can pull out more details by playing with levels, etc, but whatever you do keep the originals unaltered. I hope they didn't steal the computer you had the files on. :-/
Now if it goes to court and evidence is needed to prove they were yours - you shaved with them, they are going to have your DNA on them right? Maybe tucked away in the pivot, but worth looking for I think.
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Del1r1um (07-21-2009)
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07-21-2009, 10:49 PM #17
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Thanked: 3795DNA evidence is a good idea but financially not feasible. I agree with others that the combination of razors is an exceptional factor, as is the particular patterns of scales, hone wear, corrosion, etc. The fact is, straight razors are relatively rare nowadays and the odds of someone selling the exact combination of razors, including the two that were re-scales, are astronomical. Good luck getting everything sorted out.
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Del1r1um (07-21-2009)
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07-21-2009, 11:41 PM #18
Dave, as I told you when you first mentioned this unfortunate incident, if there is anything I can do for you, just let me know. I have 2 monsters and they keep growing; I am sure I can send you something if the ages are similar. And soap, I can help you with. I will keep my eyes open for the razors. Good luck with the recovery.
Al raz.
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Del1r1um (07-22-2009)
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07-21-2009, 11:50 PM #19
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Thanked: 416Glen was talking about marking the inside of his scales at one time check and see if he has started doing that.
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Del1r1um (07-22-2009)
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07-21-2009, 11:56 PM #20
Dave, I am really glad they know who did it, and I've got my fingers crossed that they nail the SOB.
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