View Poll Results: does the cost of straight razors make for great shaves?
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yes
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no
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depends on how it is honed
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undecided
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01-15-2010, 05:56 AM #21
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Thanked: 326It's only priced that way due to amount of work involved.
I reckon if demand wasn't so high for high priced items the price would inevitably drop but not for long while.
In the end it's all about aesthetic values. Some people prefer ornate and ostentatious while others like simplicity.
I don't have 4000 razors in my arsenal but I've yet to see someone report their Tamahagane or even pattern welded steel shave better than the rest.
For all intents, pattern welded steels are not necessarily better than a mono steel of similar carbon content if both are heat treated correctly. The difference is only aesthetic.
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More over, you'll never catch me paying 300-400 on Dubl Duck or Filarmonica. Masses have raging hard-on for them. But the scales on the latter are boring. I wouldn't know this because I don't have it on hand.
People like different things and that's given. They like to hunt and gloat and when they acquire hard to find items. Usually it stems from whether or not you've got the money to dispose and the other person you're competing against has depleted their funds. In all honesty, if someone has all the money to burn that's great. It's their own money and I can respect that as I wouldn't want someone to dictate me what I should like or not like.
That said, for the 300-400 I'd prefer to spend that on a Japanese straight. I wish I'd started out with a JDM straight-it's a lot more forgiving and easier learning curve-not to say I had horrid time with western. To each his own. JDM FTW!
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01-15-2010, 06:01 AM #22
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01-15-2010, 06:55 AM #23
I shaved with a couple of 9$ polish wapienicas. It was smooth as hot butter. Iwan (a collector of high end razors) stated that they put his Livis and TI to shame.
Incidentally, you'd like the wapi. They were made by the communists, which proves that they got it right at least some of the time I honed a couple of them for other members (still have 2 NOS wapis tucked away). They are extremely easy to hone, and provide superb shaves.
So no, cost does not make a shave better. A mint duck will cost hundreds of $, yet shave no better than the 50$ duck with the scuffed scales.
And honestly... I can't bring myself to pay hundreds of dollars for a razor. I'll buy on ebay and restore them myself. I do have a pair of near mint joseph rodgers blades in ivory, and even that was only 100$ (goodwill on the part of the seller + the ivory needs mending).
I wanted to shave with damascus razors but didn't have the money, so now I am making them myself and selling them after 1 shave because I really don't need dozens of blades.
The only razor I would consider spending over a 100$ on is a Mappin Lancet point. Not because it is so much better than my other shavers (probably not) but because it just appeals to me.Last edited by Bruno; 01-15-2010 at 07:05 AM.
Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
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59caddy (01-15-2010)
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01-15-2010, 07:04 AM #24
oh-oh, I do see a pattern here, despite the name the gold dollars also happened to be commie razors (may be because now they've got all the american gold dollars).
i wonder when we'll get a hold of the cuba's awesome production too - that could be the crown in scott's collection
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01-15-2010, 07:15 AM #25
i would argue the case is pretty similar to cars :
if u wanna buy a cheap car, and when i mean cheap i mean it, you better to have a lot of knowledge about cars.
if u wanna buy a 10$ razor, you better know what u can get from that razor.
On the other hand, if u are new to cars, try to hit something in the middle, for the hassle-free and mind peace.
Same for razors
If you are new, stay away from anything that doesn't have a CLEAR reputation.
A brand new honed Dovo for 90-110 $ would be a good deal and a good start.
if u wanna pay less, u better KNOW why
and if u wanna pay more the same.Last edited by LesPoils; 01-15-2010 at 07:22 AM.
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59caddy (01-15-2010)
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01-15-2010, 07:17 AM #26
Who knows, they may win after all
Why I feel a consipracy theory coming up: The razor maker lobby are the ones responsible for the continued economic US blockade.
Or maybe the corn farmers because the cubans refuse to make their most EXCELLENT rum with HFCS instead of natural cane sugarTil shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
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01-15-2010, 08:26 AM #27
I have a few cheap razors and a few mid priced ones - but they are all good (as in quality). I prefer style of blade rather than maker, meaning I prefer shaving with a 6/8 roundpoint to a 6/8 straight point. Having said that, my GD is still my best razor considering the price/edge/utility ratio.
I love the smell of shaving cream in the morning!
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59caddy (01-15-2010)
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01-15-2010, 08:54 AM #28
The honing means much more than the brand name and price.
My Mastro Livi shaves great as does my Wackers and my $5 Berg....
Stick to the razors on the good list in the Wiki and avoid the bad and you should be ok, as long as the razor is in good shape.
"Cheap Tools Is Misplaced Economy. Always buy the best and highest grade of razors, hones and strops. Then you are prepared to do the best work."
- Napoleon LeBlanc, 1895
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59caddy (01-15-2010)
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01-15-2010, 09:20 AM #29
Yes. Free razors shave best.
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01-15-2010, 09:24 AM #30
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