Thread: 1/4 Nortons

You could buy 4 of them,epoxy them together,lap it well and be good to go

Originally Posted by Hirlau

It's difficult to wear out your DMT on the hones that you are discussing. I have a DMT that has been used on 1000 grit Carborundums, barber hones, a hard Arkansas, no problem. I was actually worried that I wore it out & bought another. The old one cuts as good as the new one.

Thanks! It was remarked in one of the other threads that it's possible if you're lapping for more than a few minutes. I probably went 20 minutes or so. Once a little doubt sets in I tend to want to verify, just haven't gotten around to it. Your comment helps ease doubt.

I would not lap a Carborundum under 1000 grit. I think there is a chance of dislodging the DMT diamond grit. I actually try to stay away from any Carborundum lapping. I've lapped about 15+ barber hones on the same DMT with no problems.

Just another perspective here: if you haven't already, find a thread called JaNorton and take a look at some of the videos contained in it. While you are watching them, try to picture in your mind what it would look like and how it would feel doing the technique shown on something half as long and half as wide as the hone in the video.

Good luck with whatever you decide to go with.

James.

Ok after all the replies and Jimbo's suggestion to go through the JaNorton thread, I'm convinced to get full size stones, now as an RVer fulltime and space being an issue, Can you do extra things with the Norton 4k/8k that you can't so with the Naniwas? I also seen the video of gssixgun giving a lesson on a 4/8 using a slurry and later just water which was very interesting, seems he got a little extra out of the Norton? Just want to clarify so I can get my order in. Thanks

Those techniques I show for finishing on the Norton 4/8 are not "Mine" I learned them from watching some techniques on finishing a Sushi Knife on a Nakayama.. I was honing at first with only a Norton 4/8 so I Begged, Borrowed, or flat out Stole any technique I could find to gain just a bit more from that hone..
So you could say I developed them for the Norton use but I sure didn't invent them, I did over 1000 razors with just that simple hone before I branched out and started adding new rocks.
That meant I had to really chase everything a Norton could give

Same as the other end, once I started honing for money I got a ton of Sheffield heavies in for honing, so I started using the Norton Prep Stone as a Nagura to add cutting power to my arsenal, I learned that I could do much more with the 4k end before I ever purchased a 1k..

This experience that myself and many others had with just using the Norton 4/8 is what lead to the idea of the JaNorton thread, we knew what could be achieved with just that hone, and figured if more people pushed the limits it would prove that honing is more about Technique then what stones you own..

Originally Posted by RVShave

Ok after all the replies and Jimbo's suggestion to go through the JaNorton thread, I'm convinced to get full size stones, now as an RVer fulltime and space being an issue, Can you do extra things with the Norton 4k/8k that you can't so with the Naniwas? I also seen the video of gssixgun giving a lesson on a 4/8 using a slutry and later just water which was very interesting, seems he got a little extra out of the Norton? Just want to clarify so I can get my order in. Thanks

oh come on hones really arent that big, your not an arctic explorer. :-)
Seriouly though, from what I have read, and when I posted something similar, a lot of folks said the Norton's took a lot more lapping to get flat, and that naniwas were better. But I don't know, that's just what I have been told.

The Naniwas may be a better stone, I don't know, I don't have one.
But,,,
All my Nortons lapped very easily.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

The Naniwas may be a better stone, I don't know, I don't have one.
But,,,
All my Nortons lapped very easily.

Like I say just what I was told, apparently the newer Norton stones aren't that flat, it obviously this is just opinion, don't have either yet, but have a naniwa on order, though won't be able to do a lapping comparison as I don't have a Norton. The nortons were "the" hone for some time though as far as I understand.

I'll pick up a Naniwa at the first of the year.