Yes. I am learning a jnat as well. Its all in the slurry fron the naguras. I didnt do well with plain water off the 10k chosera. I have set bevels and went through 3 naguras to have an edge that in the scope looks scratchy. Im going to say that in the end this will work out. I had no problem with my coti, and film edges are very smooth and sharp. My naniwa 12 produces a great edge as does my chsera 10k.i just gptna suehiro 20k and it looks like it will be a great shave later. When they say its a rabbit hole, they mean it. Good luck.