Thread: JNats explained...

You do know that starting to name sellers and their knowledge is like stepping into a snake pit.

How so? I received good stones and advice from someone. And this person is very highly regarded in the Jnat market. There are others I know. And better than buying a Jnat from ebay that may be ok or may not. Not looking for an argument, just recommending someone who treated me fairly.

What I'm saying is that if you would do the best research ever on Jnats, don't expect everyone to be happy about it.

I would be happy tho, if you prove me wrong you just taught me something new!

I don't follow you. What are you saying?

Originally Posted by bill3152

I don't follow you. What are you saying?

That whatever you come up with, you will eventually prove some of the "experts" wrong and some of them are "never" wrong.
I don't know how much clearer I can get, just want you to know it might not be as easy as some think, there's lots of toes to step on on the way.

OK I understand what your saying.you don't trust the stone dealers. Well I don't have any indication I was misled by anybody. Nor do I feel I was overcharged or I was given the wrong stones. I'm very happy with my purchases so no harm no foul then.

Originally Posted by bill3152

OK I understand what your saying.you don't trust the stone dealers. Well I don't have any indication I was misled by anybody. Nor do I feel I was overcharged or I was given the wrong stones. I'm very happy with my purchases so no harm no foul then.

No, it's not that I don't trust the stone dealers and their stones.
More of all the information about jnats from sellers and "experts" that don't add up!

Read up on it and you will find it's a mess!

Originally Posted by Ketsco101

OK, not that I'm easily swayed, but it sounds like cutting my teeth on synthetic stones is a better idea. Take the naturals I have and maybe pick up a couple basket case blades to practice/learn on there. I tried that when I first got into straights... gave me RADS... Seriously though, I appreciate the links and the tips. Don't think I won't be looking for some naturals for sale here though...

You have the right attitude, start with the synthetics and learn to get good shaving edge from them. Then jump inot naturals, things are a lot less consistent there, and you need to have good basics before you can appreciate them and get the max out of them

Originally Posted by bill3152

The names reflect their [properties, but the same mine and stone can react differently. I have 6 jnats. The best bang for my buck was shuobodani 100 from JNS. You can get a asano nagura set but you can also use dmt slurry with it and get great results. Some of the level 5+ stones are very hard to use for beginners. My experience may be different from yours with the same stone. The way these tones work is the slurry gets broken down as you hone into finer particles and that is what gives you the finer edge. Water only is not recommended for beginers.

+1 on this. I recently obtained a Shuobodani 100 with a set of nagura stones. You definitely get bang for the buck and I was able to get really good results right from the start. Maybe I was lucky with what I got. The edges I have been able to get have been really nice - keen and very smooth and comfortable. I couldn't be more pleased with it considering the cost. A larger stone would be really nice but I can't argue with the results thus far. What I have been consistently getting from this little stone far exceeds what I was able to accomplish off of a Naniwai 12K.

I'd like to thank everyone that hsa replied. Seems like I'm going to continue to learn on my synths, and maybe slowly grab up a natural or two, if I can find a deal, or start a savings plan (guess junior won't be going to college on my dime) for some nice JNATs and maybe an escher or two...