Thread: JNats explained...

Originally Posted by Ketsco101

So it looks like if I were a semi-skilled honer, I should, in theory be able to use a shuobodani 100 as a finisher. Is that either right or pretty close to right? I want to try a good amount of finishers. I'm using a nani 12k now, got a shapton pro 15k on the way, and I'd like to find a reasonable natural finisher to see the difference in the edges. I hear a good bit about the difference between a synth stone and a natural, as well as just the difference in a 12k and a 15k...

Oh yeah yer hooked, big time down the rabbit hole you go

Cold hard reality, it might save you some money, I promise that you will get more improvement in your edges from honing 100 razors, then from buying every stone you can afford
People have a bad habit of giving credit to Rocks, rather then realizing that it was the time and effort they put into learning those Rocks that really gave them the improvement in the edge...


Summation: The more razors you learn to hone, the better edges you get

Now I'm not saying I'm hooked... but I will say that I do agree with you, it is not the stone that produces quality, (though I would imagine that better results can be gained from better stones), it is the honer that produces a quality edge. That being said, right now I'm grateful that I still have skin on my face, based on my severe lack of honing practice, I think I've started out on the right foot. Sat down the other night with a set of 7 Solingens I picked up a while back. Having a factory edge that would cut paper but not much else, I was able to raise them to a point where I didn't have too much razor burn after the first pass. Now to just refine my technique and get that second pass burn free edge. lol.

Glen is 100% right about the experience thing. The better stones are more capable but you have to be ready for it. I recommend the shuobodani 100 to everyone because its low priced and you can definitely live shaving off the edge off that stone. Ive been listening to these gents talk about honing a good edge off the 8k first. They are RIGHT. As if the 8 edge isnt good, the 12 will not do it for you. If you bring a ragged edge to a jnat or any other finisher, it wont happen for you.

Originally Posted by bill3152

JNS always has shuobodani 100 for $70. No brainer IMO. I have one and it works great. I know others who have the same stone and same positive feedback on it as well.

Bill,
I noticed that the prices have gone up a little and that they are sold in several different varieties -ie. Shuobudani 100 (a122) and Shuobudani 100 (a136) to name a couple.
Aside from the size differences, are these "model" numbers indicating anything else unique about each stone.

Also, it looks like they are all "Out of Stock". Me gets the feeling that JNS experienced an SRP run on the bank!

Originally Posted by Siguy

Bill,
I noticed that the prices have gone up a little and that they are sold in several different varieties -ie. Shuobudani 100 (a122) and Shuobudani 100 (a136) to name a couple.
Aside from the size differences, are these "model" numbers indicating anything else unique about each stone.

Also, it looks like they are all "Out of Stock". Me gets the feeling that JNS experienced an SRP run on the bank!

I think the person to answer your questions best is Maksim, the owner of JNS.

Point taken, Stefan. Bill might know, however.

I would ask Maksim as he knows better than I would. I know quite a few who have had great experiences with that stone myself included. Anything that has lines in it I would avoid as these may not be felt at the moment but if the stone is lapped they could damage the edge in the future. Alex Gilmore is someone I have heard who is very knowledgeable and honest. He is a member here so worth looking into. He has sold a few stones to people I know and they all have good things to say about him.

Stefan beat me to it. Lol.

Thumbs up for Maksim and Alex.

Originally Posted by bill3152

Anything that has lines in it I would avoid as these may not be felt at the moment but if the stone is lapped they could damage the edge in the future.

The lines themselves are inert in high quality stones. Cheaper stones may have sand etc trapped & that is what causes the damage.