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    Quote Originally Posted by JOB15 View Post
    Many thanks, for your non sarcastic reply.
    I was not being sarcastic. I was being dead serious. We have many "experts" on this forum when it comes to Japanese Stones. I know squat about them but I do know a thing or two about Geology and I do know that in Japan there are people who collect and study them and have been doing that all their lives. They specialize on various locals and it is a lifelong endeavor.

    Most who think they know study a bit and do some reading and think they have it down but really are clueless but will never realize it.

    It not just a matter of knowing the names of the stones and what they do but being able to recognize them in all their grades and variations and I don't mean every hone just the one or two you might be interested in.

    Just my 2 cents for those who want to avoid being fleeced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOB15 View Post
    Hi, i'm looking at Jnats and im wondering what is the best finisher.
    The Shoubudani Asagi Lv 5+ looks nice to me but i know nothing really.
    Maybe personal preference comes into it?
    They are all different so there is no best finisher, you have to talk to the seller and ask his advise.
    What kind of experience with hones do you have so far?
    Stefan

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    Stefan May have been too modest to post this very helpful video that really got me up and running on Jnats. Watch these and you'll get a feel for one approach to the process that I find works exceptionally well with both my Shobudani and my Ozuku.

    Nagura Honing 1 - YouTube

    Nagura Honing 2 - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainaman View Post
    They are all different so there is no best finisher, you have to talk to the seller and ask his advise.
    What kind of experience with hones do you have so far?
    My only experience is with synthetic stones.
    I have the shaptons 1k to 30k
    My brother has the Nortons and a a few Naniwa.
    I hone my small collection of blades (4) and my brothers large collection, which ive been doing for maybe a year.
    I still have a long way to go.
    The main problem is that i shave once per week, it takes ages to dull a blade

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCDshaver View Post
    Stefan May have been too modest to post this very helpful video that really got me up and running on Jnats. Watch these and you'll get a feel for one approach to the process that I find works exceptionally well with both my Shobudani and my Ozuku.

    Nagura Honing 1 - YouTube

    Nagura Honing 2 - YouTube
    Nice one...thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
    I was not being sarcastic. I was being dead serious. We have many "experts" on this forum when it comes to Japanese Stones. I know squat about them but I do know a thing or two about Geology and I do know that in Japan there are people who collect and study them and have been doing that all their lives. They specialize on various locals and it is a lifelong endeavor.

    Most who think they know study a bit and do some reading and think they have it down but really are clueless but will never realize it.

    It not just a matter of knowing the names of the stones and what they do but being able to recognize them in all their grades and variations and I don't mean every hone just the one or two you might be interested in.

    Just my 2 cents for those who want to avoid being fleeced.
    "If you don't know nothing really then really don't buy one."
    I used the word "really" and you repeated it twice, i found that slightly offensive.
    I'm over it now though

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    lol some ppl sure sounds like thay wanna scare you away from things u want to know more about. i buy a stone and use it to learn how it works. i dont read about natural stones since thay can act so diffrent from stone to stone, same with names/brands really. but if you buy from a source like maksim you can take avanage of asking him how the stone works so its a less gamble of getting a bad stone, full of toxic lines etc.

    I say buy one.
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    Very nice videos but..... I think my carpal tunnel would kick in using these stones(;-(...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMagnus View Post
    lol some ppl sure sounds like thay wanna scare you away from things u want to know more about. i buy a stone and use it to learn how it works. i dont read about natural stones since thay can act so diffrent from stone to stone, same with names/brands really. but if you buy from a source like maksim you can take avanage of asking him how the stone works so its a less gamble of getting a bad stone, full of toxic lines etc.

    I say buy one.
    Thanks, ive e mailed Mr Maksim..See what he says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOB15 View Post
    My only experience is with synthetic stones.
    I have the shaptons 1k to 30k
    My brother has the Nortons and a a few Naniwa.
    I hone my small collection of blades (4) and my brothers large collection, which ive been doing for maybe a year.
    I still have a long way to go.
    The main problem is that i shave once per week, it takes ages to dull a blade
    If you can get good shaving edge with your synthetics then you will be able to take full advantage of a good Jnat finisher.
    The one you linked from JNS looks good, just ask Maksim for a good razor finisher for beginner and some naguras and a nice soft fine tomonagura and you will be set.
    Stefan

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