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    If you don't know nothing really then really don't buy one.

    First study them and learn. There are many pitfalls for the uninitiated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
    If you don't know nothing really then really don't buy one.

    First study them and learn. There are many pitfalls for the uninitiated.
    I've done some reading.
    One thing im wondering, can you hone your razor with synthetics and then just finish on a jnat.
    Or are you suppose to use jnats from bevel setting to final polish?
    thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOB15 View Post
    I've done some reading.
    One thing im wondering, can you hone your razor with synthetics and then just finish on a jnat.
    Or are you suppose to use jnats from bevel setting to final polish?
    thx

    yes you can work on your synthetics and then set a natural finish. go from around 8k to a nice jnat with tomo nagura. should give you a nice edge.
    watch out for honing on the jnat with water only. many of the hard jnats tends to scratch the steel easy. so its easier to just break down a tomoslurry and finish there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMagnus View Post
    yes you can work on your synthetics and then set a natural finish. go from around 8k to a nice jnat with tomo nagura. should give you a nice edge.
    watch out for honing on the jnat with water only. many of the hard jnats tends to scratch the steel easy. so its easier to just break down a tomoslurry and finish there.
    Many thanks, for your non sarcastic reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOB15 View Post
    Many thanks, for your non sarcastic reply.
    No worries man. we are here to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOB15 View Post
    Many thanks, for your non sarcastic reply.
    I was not being sarcastic. I was being dead serious. We have many "experts" on this forum when it comes to Japanese Stones. I know squat about them but I do know a thing or two about Geology and I do know that in Japan there are people who collect and study them and have been doing that all their lives. They specialize on various locals and it is a lifelong endeavor.

    Most who think they know study a bit and do some reading and think they have it down but really are clueless but will never realize it.

    It not just a matter of knowing the names of the stones and what they do but being able to recognize them in all their grades and variations and I don't mean every hone just the one or two you might be interested in.

    Just my 2 cents for those who want to avoid being fleeced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
    I was not being sarcastic. I was being dead serious. We have many "experts" on this forum when it comes to Japanese Stones. I know squat about them but I do know a thing or two about Geology and I do know that in Japan there are people who collect and study them and have been doing that all their lives. They specialize on various locals and it is a lifelong endeavor.

    Most who think they know study a bit and do some reading and think they have it down but really are clueless but will never realize it.

    It not just a matter of knowing the names of the stones and what they do but being able to recognize them in all their grades and variations and I don't mean every hone just the one or two you might be interested in.

    Just my 2 cents for those who want to avoid being fleeced.
    "If you don't know nothing really then really don't buy one."
    I used the word "really" and you repeated it twice, i found that slightly offensive.
    I'm over it now though

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    lol some ppl sure sounds like thay wanna scare you away from things u want to know more about. i buy a stone and use it to learn how it works. i dont read about natural stones since thay can act so diffrent from stone to stone, same with names/brands really. but if you buy from a source like maksim you can take avanage of asking him how the stone works so its a less gamble of getting a bad stone, full of toxic lines etc.

    I say buy one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMagnus View Post
    yes you can work on your synthetics and then set a natural finish. go from around 8k to a nice jnat with tomo nagura. should give you a nice edge.
    watch out for honing on the jnat with water only. many of the hard jnats tends to scratch the steel easy. so its easier to just break down a tomoslurry and finish there.
    Good advice. And try to find a provider that: shaves himself, shaves with a straight razor himself, tests his stones on an individual one by one basis, tests and matches the tomonagura with the actual base stone.

    good luck,
    Alex
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    Quote Originally Posted by alx View Post
    Good advice. And try to find a provider that: shaves himself, shaves with a straight razor himself, tests his stones on an individual one by one basis, tests and matches the tomonagura with the actual base stone.

    good luck,
    Alex
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    I'm waiting for the arrival of my Suehiro Gokumyo 20k at the moment so buying a jnats at he same time is a bit silly.
    I have stone fever i think.
    I think the Jnats are more appealing than synthetics
    The Gokumyo 20k didnt take 500 million years to be made by God himself

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