I bought a black thurigian from that seller. That is not what it was. I did however get a way better hone than that. What it actually is is a Pierre La Lune special hone for good razors only. It was not even a German hone, but a good one. He does sell a lot of hones. He said that an old barber told him it was a rose thurigian. It is a gamble for sure, the big question is how much do you spend on a mystery bag?