Thread: Barbers Hone Question and Cutting a Stone Question. 2-4-1 (twofers')

Barbers Hone Question and Cutting a Stone Question. 2-4-1 (twofers')

I guess it's legal to ask two questions in one post.....

first, has anyone used a Cotl barbers hone?

and secondly, has anyone tried to split/saw/chisel a stone in half?

I have a Shapton Glass 1K, (OK, not a stone), I would like to cut in half but not sure what will work without chipping chunks out of it.

Any help?

Thanks, Dave

Yes it is legal,,, we had a member ask 7 questions in one post last week,,,,

Do you mean a coticule hone about the size of a barber hone,,, a smaller coticule?

I took a stone to a tile/stone cutter in town , who put it on a wet cutting saw & had it to my size in about 2 minutes with no problem,,, he didn't want to charge me, but I gave him a twenty anyway.

Diamond cutting disk I would imagine???

I have a full set of Nortons that I cut in half lengthwise, AaronX and I did it years ago because we both fell for that BS thought that narrow hones might be easier to hone Smiling/Warped razors on..

Used a few Metal Hacksaw Blades to do them the 220/1k was easy the 4k was pretty easy but the 8k was pretty tough..

Most useless thing I ever did, used them maybe 3 times before I realized it is the Motion of the stroke used on a thinner hone that works not the thinner hone

Somebody on here cut a Shapton GS, snapped the glass but it held together and IIRC they glued it to a holder after..

Originally Posted by gssixgun

I have a full set of Nortons that I cut in half lengthwise, AaronX and I did it years ago because we both fell for that BS thought that narrow hones might be easier to hone Smiling/Warped razors on..

Used a few Metal Hacksaw Blades to do them the 220/1k was easy the 4k was pretty easy but the 8k was pretty tough..

Most useless thing I ever did, used them maybe 3 times before I realized it is the Motion of the stroke used on a thinner hone that works not the thinner hone

Somebody on here cut a Shapton GS, snapped the glass but it held together and IIRC they glued it to a holder after..

Well glen you have mentioned this before but it is something I cannot grasp, that the only way I can see using a wide stone is with the rolling X stroke which is not exactly consistent, well, maybe for someone but not so much for me.

I have a lot easier time using a narrow stone especially since nearly all of my razors are smiling wedges and mostly not many with consistent spines.

Maybe you can save me a fortune and try to explain how you managed to store all of your narrow stones.

[Anybody have any info on the Cotl hone? ]

Originally Posted by Hirlau

Yes it is legal,,, we had a member ask 7 questions in one post last week,,,,

Do you mean a coticule hone about the size of a barber hone,,, a smaller coticule?

I took a stone to a tile/stone cutter in town , who put it on a wet cutting saw & had it to my size in about 2 minutes with no problem,,, he didn't want to charge me, but I gave him a twenty anyway.

No Hirlau, The name of the stone is Cotl, it is a borbers hone brand. Maybe other stones or razors too, I just don't know.

It is about the swooping, angled, rolling, rocking, "Honing Gymnastics" that you are doing to keep the edge on the hone, it has absolutly nothing to do with the size of the hone.. I swear this is truth,

Draw a line down your Shapton, hone only on one side of the line..

I am only trying to save you money, and have you not make the same dumb move as I did by cutting a perfectly good set of hones..

But sometimes people have to learn this themselves and with a plethora of Thin Hone fanboys to perpetrate the myth, it just contines to march on


ps; There is nothing wrong with a thin hone, that is not what I am saying but you do not need a thin hone to do the exact same honing strokes ....

And ladies and gentleman, notice the spine never leaves the stone, correct? This was the difficult part to grasp.
As for being a Thin Hone Fanboy....I only use my 1/4" wide PHIG on my rare 1/8" French Blue Marlin Wedge.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

It is about the swooping, angled, rolling, rocking, "Honing Gymnastics" that you are doing to keep the edge on the hone, it has absolutly nothing to do with the size of the hone.. I swear this is truth,

Draw a line down your Shapton, hone only on one side of the line..

I am only trying to save you money, and have you not make the same dumb move as I did by cutting a perfectly good set of hones..

But sometimes people have to learn this themselves and with a plethora of Thin Hone fanboys to perpetrate the myth, it just contines to march on


ps; There is nothing wrong with a thin hone, that is not what I am saying but you do not need a thin hone to do the exact same honing strokes ....

An old sharpening stone (for knives, razors, etc.) by American Hone Company.

CotL Hone The Cream Of The Ladle
American Hone Co.
Olean N.Y

The only barber's hone I have used felt like honing on glass....zero feedback...it came in a cool embossed aluminum case with a perfectly intact label inside....now it's simply decorative memorabilia (which I like a lot).....they must have worked though, otherwise those guys in the white jackets would not have used them.

Originally Posted by WW243

An old sharpening stone (for knives, razors, etc.) by American Hone Company.

CotL Hone The Cream Of The Ladle
American Hone Co.
Olean N.Y

The only barber's hone I have used felt like honing on glass....zero feedback...it came in a cool embossed aluminum case with a perfectly intact label inside....now it's simply decorative memorabilia (which I like a lot).....they must have worked though, otherwise those guys in the white jackets would not have used them.

Are you saying they do nothing? Will they improve or degrade an edge? Tell me about using it.

Thanks, Dave