Thread: les latneuses coticule or Thuringain?

Originally Posted by rideon66

Ok. It sounds like I probably want to stick with a coti, cause I only thought of a thuri due to the cheaper price. It sounds like the cheaper ones may be inferio.
I am not sure what a MTS thuri is. The ones I am talking about come from a timbertool site linked to the coticule.be site.

This is just my opinion, but I wouldn't come close to spending any money on any "thuri" on timbertools' site. If you're going to spend any money on any thuringian, it must be vintage, and you can let the price dictate what size you get (a celebrated 1x5 water hone should be inexpensive, bigger stones like 1 1/2 x 7 or 2x6 or 2 1/2x5, not so much). I have never seen or heard of a "good" thuringian stone that hit the market after the escher group clapped out and the company sold ( inherited?) where someone else tried to bond the cuttings together.

What timbertools sells in the larger stones appears to be the same thing that's available on ebay for 1/3rd the cost - they are referred to as MST, and when you get one in person and see the surface, you will immediately be let down, especially so when you use it and try to polish a razor on it.

If their small stones are made from a piece of true vintage thuringian material that escher passed by, then they still want as much as a labeled escher would cost, and they are using another company's brand to promote something they are selling. Escher is escher. They are selling thuringian stuff at best, they are not selling escher unless the label is from Escher and co. I think they've probably been made aware of that.

What you get with one of their stones is something that costs as much as a vintage labeled escher but what happens if you don't like it? You'll have trouble getting a small fraction of your money back, especially if the stones aren't Y/G color (the picture makes them look gray).

I'll yield to anyone who has actually bought one and used it alongside an escher, but I wouldn't risk it.

Originally Posted by DaveW

If you're going to spend any money on any thuringian, it must be vintage, and you can let the price dictate what size you get (a celebrated 1x5 water hone should be inexpensive, bigger stones like 1 1/2 x 7 or 2x6 or 2 1/2x5, not so much). I have never seen or heard of a "good" thuringian stone that hit the market after the escher group clapped out and the company sold ( inherited?) where someone else tried to bond the cuttings together.

What timbertools sells in the larger stones appears to be the same thing that's available on ebay for 1/3rd the cost - they are referred to as MST, and when you get one in person and see the surface, you will immediately be let down, especially so when you use it and try to polish a razor on it.

If their small stones are made from a piece of true vintage thuringian material that escher passed by, then they still want as much as a labeled escher would cost, and they are using another company's brand to promote something they are selling. Escher is escher. They are selling thuringian stuff at best, they are not selling escher unless the label is from Escher and co. I think they've probably been made aware of that.

What you get with one of their stones is something that costs as much as a vintage labeled escher but what happens if you don't like it? You'll have trouble getting a small fraction of your money back, especially if the stones aren't Y/G color (the picture makes them look gray).

I'll yield to anyone who has actually bought one and used it alongside an escher, but I wouldn't risk it.

Actually there are possibilities around to get some nice "Vintage Stones" for good prices, shurely not cheap but actually in a fair condition....a german site still sells vintage stones but only in the Celebrated Water Hone size (11x2,5x2), shure you have to come around with the narrow stone.

Then you can get some nice Bout stones from Hatzicho where i never heard that anybody wasnt comfortable to use them or either unsatisfied with the results. Keith did some nice reviews of them here:

http://www.tomonagura.com/Escher-Raz...huringian.html

http://www.tomonagura.com/Escher-Raz...ck-escher.html

I know that some (ive seen 2 or 3) beeing sold over ebay, but nobody wrote anything negative on the boards.

I would prefer a Thuringian stone because for me its the easiest to use stone which gives me some smooth edges...