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07-13-2015, 02:29 PM #1
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Thanked: 55Thuringian?
Does this look like a thuringian to you guys?
301686663125 ebay number. I have never even held one yet. Seller says he thinks is an escher rather than a thuringian. Eschers are all thuringian so am looking for some expert opinions."Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."-Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, 1782)
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07-13-2015, 02:47 PM #2
to me it looks like a Chinese stone. But I don't have any experience with thuringian so I couldn't really say if it looks like one. All I know is it looks like a beat up version of my Chinese.
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07-13-2015, 02:52 PM #3
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Thanked: 459Possible, but I wouldn't risk it for the price. Could be any number of slates (including the chinese stones). If it had an old beat up remnant of a label on one end, I'd be more inclined to take the risk. It does look fine cutting, but you never know until you get it.
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07-13-2015, 03:21 PM #4
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Thanked: 3215Escher’s are Thüringen’s, with an Escher label.
It can only be claimed to be an Escher, if it has a label, otherwise it’s a Thüringen. Although I have seen some guys on eBay list a greasy black Carborundum stones as “Escher?” The label does not necessarily make it a better or finer stone, than an unlabeled Thüringen or will produce better edges. It’s just a rock, you still have to do the work.
And it is almost impossible to tell for sure, from a photo, if it is a Thüringen or just a slate stone.
So buyer beware, as a blue green, Thüringen, it is a bit pricy for me, quite a bit. On the other hand, I have bought Thüringen’s at flea markets and Garge sales for a buck or two.
Here are 2 Thüringens, a blue/ green and dark blue and a Translucent Ark, I bought recently for $21 at an antique flea market.
They are out there, find them.
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07-13-2015, 03:57 PM #5
From the pictures it could well be a thuringian hone. Some typical characteristics, begining from the fine surface with white scratches, the glassy look when wet to the sawmarks would fit.
Stone is described as very hard? which would absolutely not fit for a thuri.
To the question Escher or not I think I have said enough throughout all my posts.
All in all - for a low price I would take a chance on it (300 sloty is about 72 €)
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07-13-2015, 04:03 PM #6
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Thanked: 55Cheers for helpful replies. Don't think will take the chance for the price. May try one of the smaller ones on offer at the mo, slightly wary of the size, one inch wide doesn't sound very easy to hone with
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."-Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, 1782)
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07-13-2015, 04:13 PM #7
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Thanked: 5I went to a few flea markets over the weekend in hopes of finding a nice stone or two like the Thuringian with no luck. I was even looking for a couple of cheap straights to practice honing on and again no luck!
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07-13-2015, 05:23 PM #8
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Thanked: 3215Nice Thüringen’s are out there, recently there have been some nice ones on EBay, but as said it is tough to buy from a photo.
Like Hazicho (a well respected authority on Thuringens) said, saw marks on the edges can be an indicator as can color, white scratches and slurry color. Some tough to determine from a photo, there are tons of threads and good photos here and on line, so do your due diligence when buying on line from a photo.
I have seen several nice stones sell in the Classified and that might be your best bet, you will at least get a good stone for razors.
Best Thüringen edges are from a well-honed razor with a straight and keen 8 or 12k edge. You will have to experiment with slurry and pressure. For me a thin slurry diluted to clear water with lite pressure works best.
I have labeled and unlabeled stones, I doubt anyone could tell the difference from a well-honed edge… I can’t…
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07-13-2015, 05:29 PM #9
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Thanked: 459I watched a droescher honed in scuffed up but unused looking condition sell yesterday for $145. There's definitely still some top shelf stuff that slips through. I'd be a buyer at that price, but not at $600 that most y/g stones seem to sell for (only because there are other stones that do the same thing for a lot less, the consistency premium for the y/g escher has gotten very high). What's even more puzzling is the light blue and blue hones that sell for a large fraction of that.
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07-13-2015, 07:59 PM #10
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Thanked: 55Don't need one anymore. Wanted one because the edges from my select coti just weren't quite sharp enough and when finished on either of my aj slates after were sharp but not smooth enough. Found this going cheap on the bay
Is 17.5×5cm. First shave with edge finished on this just done, edge smooth and sharp. No more thuringian needed. Yeah."Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."-Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, 1782)