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08-13-2015, 07:32 PM #1
@Euclid. I don't dispute anything you are posting - however, try searching for those products usinga UK or European reference. I doubt very much that you will find them - that's why Atoma and DMT seem to be the only alternatives this side of the water.
My service is good, fast and cheap. Select any two and discount the third.
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08-13-2015, 08:52 PM #2
I've had a similar, if more conservative journey than Ron regarding hone and lapping plate acquisition. My main workhorse was, and is, the DMT D8C. At Ron, and ChrisL's recommendation I bought the DMTXX 120 and it does eat through rock at a fantastic rate, but it leaves a surface that requires too much work afterwards, so I only use it in extreme cases.
My DGLP is much slower than it was 7 years ago. To the point where I lean toward the old D8C for initial lapping. When I get down to less than half of the pencil grid to go I'm usually losing patience and I reach for the Atoma 1200. It works so well I would use it for the entire job, but I want to conserve the surface and make it last as long as possible before it begins to slow down.
Thanks to Ron for a great reference thread.Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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08-13-2015, 09:04 PM #3
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Thanked: 16I would like to have an atoma 1200 but price tag of $90 is pretty steep. What is the best $30-40 option out there. I have a dmt I use now but don't know which one it is. It is in a red plastic base. It does work ok but takes a while. I haven't put it through many tough jobs more to clean the surface layer. I have ther hones I would like to make flat and nice again and want an inexpensive effective (and fast) way without leaving the surface too rough
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08-13-2015, 09:43 PM #4
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Thanked: 3215If you are lapping a lot of stones, the $30 CKTG 140 grit plate. then smooth with a 4k. A 4k Norton is a nice refresh stone for the GS20.
If your just maintaining and finish lapping a hand full of stones, the $35 400/1000 CKTG combo plate.
The combo plate is the diamond grid one nice, no sticksion, and the 1000 grit can be used for correction and finish lapping high grit stones.
Recently I have been scrubbing my Super Stones with a Green 3M Scotch Brite to remove the swarf, and then just doing 4-5 refreshing laps with a 1k plate, saves a lot of wear on the Super Stones.
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08-14-2015, 03:48 AM #5
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08-14-2015, 04:20 PM #7
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Thanked: 3215I use the sponge with the scotch brite backing, we buy them in bulk at big box stores. I hone on a plastic tray and use lots of water in a squirt bottle. I use the sponge side to soak up excess water and swarf as well.
Be careful using soap, especially Dawn dish soap on synthetic stones, it will react on some and eat the stone. I have a small spot on one of my Norton’s where I put a drop, to test years ago, if foamed up. I rinsed quickly but it ate a small divot that is still there years later, it does not affect performance.
Read the instructions some stones warn about dish soap, Dawn contains enzymes, as do many soaps. I do use it frequently on my naturals though, with no problems.
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08-14-2015, 06:57 PM #8
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Thanked: 16I also use dish soap on all my naturals after soaking in the simple green. Just scrub with a old toothbrush. I have had the simple green eat away at synthetic hones so do not recommend that however I do use dish soap on pretty much all of them and haven't had an issue. I do not use it for prolong periods just a drop on the toothbrush and then scrub away in sink with water running on stone. I even use with dmt and even with sandpaper to wipe away years of use.