Thread: Natural Bevel Setter

Originally Posted by 10Pups

Marsal you need to add a belt grinder to your progression if you keep buying razors like that :<0)

Ain't that the truth...too bad you can't inspect ebay items in person before placing a bid!

Originally Posted by onimaru55

So you weren't just setting a bevel

Oh, they needed work don't get me wrong. But the time I gave was pretty much just getting the bevels set once everything else was squared away. The wedge should (finally) be ready for action. The Torrey is still in need of attention from the 1K.

In the olden days natural bevel setters and hone progressions have never been popular in Europe, Japan being a different story. Probably because there weren't time-efficient bevel setters available.
I have looked into the way razors and knives were made in the past and this is the picture.
A blank was shaped using a millstone, when the blade was shaped a hone was used to finish the edge. Much elbow grease.
You can read about it in Jean-Jacques Perret's book "L'art du coutelier" which tells you how knives and razors were made in France in the late 1700s: https://books.google.fr/books?id=1kv...page&q&f=false

There has been a post on CCC about it. Although in French the pictures tell you the essentials. La fabrication châtelleraudaise
Pics are late 1800s, J-J Perret wrote the book 100 years ago, not much seems to have changed in those 100 years.


For Japanese bevel setters you may want to read up on the way katana swords were made. YouTube will provide some footage as well. So if you insist on natural bevel setters you'll need deep pockets as they don't come cheap.

Thank you kees.
About Japanese bevel setters, let me know if anyone had a different experience, but on a kamisori the bevel setter is a stone around 4k (not a specific one). Whatever you do to it, you don't need to use a coarser stone, it's an overkill.

Originally Posted by Vasilis

Thank you kees.
About Japanese bevel setters, let me know if anyone had a different experience, but on a kamisori the bevel setter is a stone around 4k (not a specific one). Whatever you do to it, you don't need to use a coarser stone, it's an overkill.

A kamisori is no different to other razors you use what is needed to get the job done.

Yeah, exactly - starting at 4k is fine assuming there's no damage or poor geometry. Otherwise you use whatever is needed.

I used a 2k Shapton Pro on an edge rebuild on an Iwasaki kamisori.

http://straightrazorpalace.com/advan...e-restore.html

I find that a soft Arkansas used with oil works very well as a bevel-setter. In France, I've had good results setting the bevel using a Pyrenees mountain, Ariège "lisse" stone with water and a spine-leading pass.