Natural Bevel Setter

[Benjisco]

Gents, I'm looking for a natural bevel setter but drawing a blank. Do you know if there are any consistently good natural bevel setters and where to get on from?

[Utopian]

Nope .

[Damo]

i do not own this stone. Perhaps someone who does can chip in

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[Benjisco]

Thanks for the fast responses guys, my corticule is doing most of the grunt work at the moment but I'm just wasting good time and stone. I'd like a natural hone just to keep the theme. I did find an old thread about an Italian stone but can't find much info on it

[Utopian]

I do have an Ikarashi. It promises a lot and fails like the rest. It probably would work for kitchen knives but it's not a viable bevel setter for razors.

[Steve56]

Probably nothing short of 4 times as much $ as a synth bevel setter. A super fast dedicated coticule or a JNat suita will work if setting the bevel is all you need, they'll both peel the steel off your edge pretty quickly.

I've had the coticule and do have the suita(s), but my bevel setters are either a 2K or 5K Shapton Pro.

Cheers, Steve

[RefGent]

Supposedly, the red Amakusa is around 800 grit, so it could be used to set bevels. However, from what I've read, like with most coarser naturals it works much better with knives, where pressure can be applied in a way that can't with razors. It isn't super expensive, so you could try it if you want, but there's no guarantee it'll work well.

[Utopian]

Please realize that every opinion about natural hones is dependent on a very small sample size--the ones that we have used. It may not apply to every single rock of a particular type.

That said...

The red Amakusa will chew up your edges. It is not of use for razors because of the variability of the grit in the hone.
The white Amakusa is much less aggressive but still can damage edges while failing to form a proper bevel.

[rideon66]

I don't know anything about them and have never tried them, but have always wonderd about LA PYRÉNÉES

? Maybe someone here can chime in on them.

[onimaru55]

It's not that natural bevel setters don't exist . It's just they are at least 2x the price & 2x as slow as a synthetic if any heavy lifting is needed.

On the plus side they don't leave deep scratches.... mostly... but being a natural it's not impossible for some random large particles to pop up & microchip your bevel.

If the bevel is in good shape even a fast Jnat finisher can do the job but something like a Tsushima is more versatile.