Thread: Lapping film

Originally Posted by HARRYWALLY

Diamond Lapping Film - Lee Valley Tools

thanks.

Originally Posted by Geezer

Hi,
Use the search space above to search for "Kamisori" and then "Lapping film." A lot of posts on both. Just use your "Enter" key not the magnifying glass. Keeps the search to this forum.
Good Shaves!
~Richard

awesome tip

Originally Posted by earcutter

I gave the film an honest try a while back. They didn't work that well for me or my Kami. My Kami is a stone whore.

Give em a shot, but if they don't work for you, don't spend too much time trying is my advice.

what stones are you using? I am just starting out .

would be nice to know how the microns translate to grit, ordered 1 micron sheets to start.
trying to figure out what microns are needed for
1 setting bevel
2 finishing.
tons to read.

Originally Posted by jkcerda

who uses it, where do you get it? what sizes?
getting two Kamisori's , one is traditional and one is a symmetric ground Kenwa.
I need to learn how to hone BOTH.

Originally Posted by jkcerda

would be nice to know how the microns translate to grit, ordered 1 micron sheets to start.
trying to figure out what microns are needed for
1 setting bevel
2 finishing.
tons to read.

You asked the questions and said you were going to do some reading, and yet went ahead and placed an order without knowing the purpose of the sheets you ordered. I suggest that you slow down, do more reading, and try to find a mentor near you.

Originally Posted by Utopian

You asked the questions and said you were going to do some reading, and yet went ahead and placed an order without knowing the purpose of the sheets you ordered. I suggest that you slow down, do more reading, and try to find a mentor near you.

yes/no, saw 1 micron sheets being used, since the shop was placing an order I added my sheets to the list
McMaster-Carr
they are 3" x 8" in one micron (my granite stone is 4" x 8") and at $3.30 for a pack of five I am not out much if I confused the micron, I do see many using .5 or .3 to finish but those sadly are not available. since the order is with the shop supplies my shipping is free.
here is where I got the info
Using micro abrasive film - Straight Razor Place Library

Step 8
I gave it 20 more strokes on the 1 micron, and now the TPT tells me this is a shaving edge. So I move upstairs for a shave test.
Note: The stroke totals were 54 on the 5 micron and 125 on the 1 micron with the whole process from start to finish taking less than an hour and most of that being spent making notes and testing the edge. Very little actual time was spent scraping the razor up and down the hone.

it would be AWESOME to find a mentor

Originally Posted by jkcerda

would be nice to know how the microns translate to grit, ordered 1 micron sheets to start.
trying to figure out what microns are needed for
1 setting bevel
2 finishing.
tons to read.

Films will work, some like them. Just not my cup of tea. A selection from 15,12,9,5,3,1 and .5 micron should work.
http://www.imcclains.com/productinfo...on%20Chart.pdf

Originally Posted by Wirm

Films will work, some like them. Just not my cup of tea. A selection from 15,12,9,5,3,1 and .5 micron should work.
http://www.imcclains.com/productinfo...on%20Chart.pdf

thanks for the chart
so 1 micron is between 12-15k grit (shapton stones); about 12k grit on (Norton stones)
3 micron is about 8k grit on Norton

cool, NOW if the bevel is set, can I just get away with the 1 micron sheets? should I get .5 micron? will 3 micron be used to set a bevel if needed? glad my options with McCarr are pretty decent, I will need another source for the .5 micron.

Originally Posted by jkcerda

thanks.


awesome tip


what stones are you using? I am just starting out .

My Nani's are my standbys. But the Kami loves the Arkansas stones I have. If you are starting out, I hesitate to recommend the Arks because they take a little finessing, but then, it's hard to over hone with the Arks so I'm torn.

That said, everyone should have a set of Nani's in their collection if you ask me!

Good luck! Kami's are bad ... expletive

I sharpen japanese chisels on a washita, which doesn't cut the white steel that quickly, so it ends up leaving a polish on the hard steel. I can imagine (since the kamisoris are similar, and probably similar hardness) that the arks will do good work on the steel because they polish more than cut.

If you could sit with a beginner to show them how to use them (including a slurried soft for bevel work), they can be used as fast as anything else, but that requires judgement with pressure. And beginners might not have that quite yet - if they smash a razor down trying to get speed instead of just applying moderate pressure, they'll end up wonking the bevel geometry.

I love them, though - slurried soft, washita and then either black or trans to prepare little used or bevel-correction-needed razors for me.