Thread: Fastest progression possible

Originally Posted by CrownCork

I use two stones. A 1K then my finisher. Only use the 1K if the bevel needs setting. I have talked to grinders that worked for Genco and that's the way they did it. Works for me. YMMV and all that.

One stone honing? It takes a bit of time assuming the finisher is not a man made stone, but you enjoy honing to the fullest; no hurry, you are taking your time and hone until it's shave ready. I enjoy it too.
What are you using? Coticule? Jnat with Asano nagura progression or just a tomonagura? If you do have a diamond plate, it does count, so it would be three stones. But slurry stones don't count. A successful method, and it does save you some money from the other one or two stones required, but not a good idea for people without experience.

Originally Posted by CrownCork

I use two stones. A 1K then my finisher. Only use the 1K if the bevel needs setting. I have talked to grinders that worked for Genco and that's the way they did it. Works for me. YMMV and all that.

I have heard this from a quite a few people now that just use the two stones. They will only use the 1k if setting bevel and the second stone, a jnat with a couple of slurries to water diluting to get the job done!

Varies. On my customs I use a Naniwa 10 K. On older razors. Depends on my mood. Coti, Escher, PHIG, slate. It works for me and I feel my edges are better that using 5-6 stones in progression. Less stones to keep flat. Time is about the same or less when it comes to stoke count. Again it is YMMV

Originally Posted by gssixgun

There was a guy on here that swore by using a 1 inch belt grinder too,,, At a certain point in time we can only point you toward the proved path that works for the majority of people..

Some people insist on taking their own path.... I don't have to shave with those edges you do

So a Belt Grinder is Fastest by far, but really not a popular choice,,, But hey ..... It works Right ????

When I started experimenting with the DMT-C as bevel setter I didn't do it for speed. I did it because I thought a lot about the SEM pictures indicating a nearly ideal apex from it. I'm always trying different things because I want to. I make my own ammo, arrows, bows, bowstrings, deer sausage, wine & etc. because I'm usually not satisfied with what's available. I guess I do take my own path. My friends and family want to shave with my edges- that's enough for me.

My only intent is to report that the DMT-C 325 is different from other diamond hones in that it does not damage the edge like the finer DMT-E 1200, at least my 2 of each so my finding is limited to this small sample.

Just used 1k Chosera, Ohira Suita, Nakayama on 4 razors with great results .

The speed of honing will depend on the hones used.
1k Chosera, 5k/8k Shapton Pro, 10k Super stone, 20k Suehiro is very fast even though it is a 5 stone progression. Once the bevel is set the rest of the hones take very little time.

Originally Posted by Vasilis

You don't have to buy a 400, 1000, 2k, 3k, 5k, 8k, 10k, 12k, gokumyo 20k and a natural.

You forgot the 600 and 800!

If I'm setting a bevel with no issues (chips, frown etc) I can usually finish a razor in under 45 min and lots of times way less with my King 1k, Norton 4k/8k and PHIG. I've done well over 100 with this combo

Originally Posted by rodb

If I'm setting a bevel with no issues (chips, frown etc) I can usually finish a razor in under 45 min and lots of times way less with my King 1k, Norton 4k/8k and PHIG. I've done well over 100 with this combo

With a bevel set, I think it takes me less than 10' for me to finish a razor. Less than 5' maybe. I'm using a Sigma 6k pink with white dots (the poisonous kind) with a little slurry about 80x, wash the slurry and give it another 50x, and go to the finisher, from 150 to 300x and strop 20x on leather. (Something that begs the question, why does shipping a razor to be honed without setting a bevel requires such a ridiculous amount?! I'm assuming, the responsibility not to brake it if it falls from your hands, forget it in the water for too long, shave with it to make sure it's shave ready and at the same time make sure you won't cut your throat (that might be a serious point, extremely dangerous occupation!) or ship it to the correct address seems to cost the 99% of the price, no hard feelings for anyone who does it)

On an easy bevel, 10mins on a 1k, 10mins with a Norton 4k/8k and 5 mins on the PHIG. The times include making slurry and rinsing or quick lapping hones if needed

Originally Posted by KenG

When I started experimenting with the DMT-C as bevel setter I didn't do it for speed. I did it because I thought a lot about the SEM pictures indicating a nearly ideal apex from it. I'm always trying different things because I want to. I make my own ammo, arrows, bows, bowstrings, deer sausage, wine & etc. because I'm usually not satisfied with what's available. I guess I do take my own path. My friends and family want to shave with my edges- that's enough for me.

My only intent is to report that the DMT-C 325 is different from other diamond hones in that it does not damage the edge like the finer DMT-E 1200, at least my 2 of each so my finding is limited to this small sample.

And what if I told you that the guy taking those pics didn't know how to hone razors when he began publishing those same pics...

Now logically,,, If there was a faster way to hone razors that gave acceptable edges don't you think those of us that do it professionally would be all over it

You would probably think we might have tried almost every idea people purpose, that there might be a darn good reason why we don't go that route