Thread: Honing and the temperature of a stone

Only Put It In The Oven If You Plan On Eating It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ha............If You Have Stones To Waste Try It Let Us All Know How It Turns Out For Ya,,,,,,But Everything About This Spells Bad Idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ty

I would first sprinkle some cheese on top, then 10' at 275°C et voilà !

Originally Posted by Addison

Only Put It In The Oven If You Plan On Eating It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ha............If You Have Stones To Waste Try It Let Us All Know How It Turns Out For Ya,,,,,,But Everything About This Spells Bad Idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ty

Not wasting stones. Trying to remove one from a box and had a crack pot idea that I'm just trying to discuss and not actually perform.

I was not being dismissive, but I don't think the relatively trivial temperature change would significantly alter the condition of the binder or the garnets. A temperature increase might cause a differential expansion of one relative to the other but I would think it would have to be a much greater temperature.

If you do decide to put cheese on that warm stone, you might as well add bacon too!

Originally Posted by Utopian

I was not being dismissive, but I don't think the relatively trivial temperature change would significantly alter the condition of the binder or the garnets. A temperature increase might cause a differential expansion of one relative to the other but I would think it would have to be a much greater temperature.

If you do decide to put cheese on that warm stone, you might as well add bacon too!

@Utopian; I know you weren't, I've noticed your scientifically oriented mind in the past and I was hoping you'd chime in. I had the same thoughts on the levels of expansion, but figured I would post the arbitrary thought process anyways. Aaaaaand now I want bacon.

I'm putting odds at 28.3% that someone on this forum has either honed while the heat was broken or used a hot stone for some reason.

well, there just might be some effect, the viscosity of water lowers with temperature so there will be less of a lubricating effect from the water film..., and if you get the water boiling you will get this two phase turbulent film in between your stone and razor I'll bet it will cary away the removed metal instantly

I only once removed a stone from a box but it was already broken beforehand so I did not put much thought in it I think I did use hot water eventually but that was more to remove the dirt on it

If you want to find some reading to put yourself to sleep use this as your search phrase.

Coefficients of Linear Thermal Expansion garnets

Rocks are not as much brutes as you may think. Most are chock full of internal flaws and cracks of all sizes and shapes. Temperature change and extremes are the main way nature splits rock apart.

I wouldn't be heating or freezing any rock I cared about.

Originally Posted by 32t

If you want to find some reading to put yourself to sleep use this as your search phrase.

Coefficients of Linear Thermal Expansion garnets

I'm familiar with thermal expansion, many classes in my studies required their use. I'll probably read abunch during my next poop lol.

As far as thermal shock, anything can shatter depending on the thermal gradient. That's not really part of the scope of my question.

My thought is that, with heat, a binder may expand at a larger rate than the abrasive. Freezing a stone would have to be done dry, obviously.

Heat worked great in removing the stone. I heated the oven to cook a pizza and then left it open until it was near or at a car in the sun temp. Did 1 cycle of 5 minutes then 2 cycles at 10 minutes. I forced the stone too much and some bbw stayed stuck to the bottom of the box. Will lap the glue off and post pictures.