Thread: Escher vs Jnat for finishing

You can get by quite nicely with just Botan, Mejiro, and Tomo nagura - and I frequently do. On very hard steels or larger bevels with lots of steel to remove (e.g.: Sheffield wedges), I do use a full set of Botan, Tenjyou, Mejiro, Koma, and Tomo nagura.

Originally Posted by sqzbxr

You can get by quite nicely with just Botan, Mejiro, and Tomo nagura - and I frequently do. On very hard steels or larger bevels with lots of steel to remove (e.g.: Sheffield wedges), I do use a full set of Botan, Tenjyou, Mejiro, Koma, and Tomo nagura.

Ah, right. Still, three nagura is quite the progression.

Originally Posted by jkatzman

I realize it is a matter of preference, blade metal, stone and technique to name some variables but I interested in hearing from those who have used both what and why they prefer one over another. I own both. Let's keep the discussion on just the two types of stones.

Good question sir. I don't know. I have and use both as well. If you area talking about final finishers and I think you are, it was a dead heat between my Barbers Delight Escher and Kato Maruka-Nakayama Mizu Asagi. I would have to give the edge to the Barbers Delight just because it was faster,. Wanna see?
Mike

Both stones are potent finishers.
It depends more on tastes. I love them both...
I find my yellow and Y-G Eschers deliver a more face friendly edge...but less sharp.
My Jnats get me a sharper and smoother edge...but i have to be careful on every stroke because any mistske can cost...pulling on the skin and grain growth have to be rigurously done when using a JNAt edge.
I never tested a Barber's delight but imo most of JNAt finishers are faster then Eschers.
Like i sayd...i love them both just that i'm in the JNAT phase of HAD now...i have passed the Escher HAD dissorder and the Coticule HAD successfully.)

Originally Posted by jkatzman

Let's keep the discussion on just the two types of stones.

2 types of stones ?
There are about 80 different strata in finish grade Jnats alone

It will really come down to the individual stone as to preference.

I have the two kinds, so here are my two cents. I have a light green and two yg/b thuris nice size and nakayama kiita with Hatanaka stamp. I recieved both from very reputable sellers, very trusted and knowledable people(did my homework). Both the sones produce very good edges the thuris are easier to use to get very goood edge, but I think nakayama gives a better edge. Also the nakayama is faster and can handle more range, and that is what really separates it. I can do what u can do and do if better and faster. That does not mean I will get rid of my thuri stones, on the contrary it makes me apreciate them more for what they can do,give that buttery edge a bigginer can do. That is also a very good thing as I don't always have the time for my jnat. I can go to the thuri and with little effort and concentration get what I want. So to me they are like women in the end if they are up to par I want as many as I can get until I die.lol

I have both and prefer the Escher. The Escher is perfect for giving a smooth, less sharp edge. I find it perfect for backing off the edge when it is to sharp. The Jnat's will give a much sharper edge but not necessarily more comfortable shave. I find their edges can be to sharp.

just my 2 cents, I prefer jnat edge and price

A good Escher can be very expensive if you can find one. I wouldn't sell mine unless the offer was so good I couldn't resist.

When you have good shaving technique, I don't consider an edge "too sharp". This is why I much prefer a jnat over an Escher. Beginners, or people with less than perfect technique will likely enjoy and get more out of an Escher. My jnat has incredibly fine particles, that i have yet to find an equal, amoung many dozens of stones I've used. Just my 2 cents

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