Thread: Escher vs Jnat for finishing

A good Escher can be very expensive if you can find one. I wouldn't sell mine unless the offer was so good I couldn't resist.

When you have good shaving technique, I don't consider an edge "too sharp". This is why I much prefer a jnat over an Escher. Beginners, or people with less than perfect technique will likely enjoy and get more out of an Escher. My jnat has incredibly fine particles, that i have yet to find an equal, amoung many dozens of stones I've used. Just my 2 cents

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Jnat for me, have both.

IME remembering my honing curve, if it feels too sharp, it isn't sharp enough, if it feels smooth and shaves closely, it is sharp enough.

Cheers, Steve

My experience.
An Escher cannot produce an edge as sharp or as smooth as my Jnat.

The term Escher is somewhat generic as far as hones go but there are so many variations of 'JNats' that a true comparison seems all but impossible.

Yess, tere are variations....but i belive the fine gentlemen who started the post was thinking of something like the creame of the eschers vs the cream of the jnats)


anyway...i've been trough @ 14 eschers ...just recived a 20 inch labled Y-G yesterday...
and about 50-60 jants....so i'm starting to understand the difrences...

If you want a straight forward finisher that's not too complicated and leaves one of the mos forgiving edges on Planet Earth...go for an Escher...a good Y-G one....

Sure it wont HHT like a JNAT...it wont ne samuray sharp.....maybe not even as a high end coticule...coticule....(you...high end coticules are finer than Eschers...sad but true....)
But damn it i cand do 3-4 passes or go ATG twice with that edge and still get no burn.
If that aint forgiveness i dont know what is!


Now with a Jnat....it's a whole diffrent...
It's a whole other love storry....
Good Jnats are hard...fast...and fine animals....
They get those bevels polished up nice and the edge fine....but you gotta know how to ride that edge....you cant go wild on it and do multiple passes ... or... blink....)

You realy have to be in sink with the edge because as smooth and as sharp as it is...it is unforgiving to mistakes...

So it is more a question of what knd of user you are rather then what you like...


If you have a sensitive skin that regenerates slowly...ingrown hairs...and a shaky hand) my best bet is you're gonna go for an Escher...

If you have skin that alows you to shave with a straigt daily...a steady hand and good technique...you're gonna love a fine jnat finish.

Oh...depending on what you want from a jnat you can finish on thicker slurry for a kinder edge...on plain water...or under running water if you realy want to squeeze that last drop of sharp out of it...

Eschers also can be tweeked in the same manner but the diffrence is smaller in what you can get compared to the diffrence in the JNAt finish.

Originally Posted by ovidiucotiga

Oh...depending on what you want from a jnat you can finish on thicker slurry for a kinder edge...on plain water...or under running water if you realy want to squeeze that last drop of sharp out of it...

bingo - you can do whatever you want with it. If you have a coticule that's good enough (I got a miracle coti last week, i'm wondering if it's even coti), you can do the same with it, but most cotis are more coarse and require an iterative sharpening process with a linen to get a truly sharp edge that has "that bite".

Eschers are good stones, but they're sort of like the Toyota Camry of razor stones. That's if someone tried to get $100,000 for a camry.

A good jnat is like getting a mercedes ute with toyota reliability for the price of a used camry.