Thread: Beginners stone

Hi guys,
A shop close to me is selling a Naniwa 10000 Specialty Stone and I thought it might make a good beginners first honing stone. Just something to use when stropping isn't enough. Good idea or bad?

Thanks guys

A 10000 will do well as a touch up stone in my opinion. Just a few passes over it should refresh the edge quite nicely.
But be sure to use tape IF your razor was honed with it or you'll damage your edge

Provided the price is right. <£65

The 10K speciality stone gets good reviews. The difference between the 10K and the 12K is going to be very little.

https://uk.knivesandtools.com/en/pt/...one-sp-490.htm

Originally Posted by Dieseld

But be sure to use tape IF your razor was honed with it or you'll damage your edge

Why do you say that?

Wouldn't keeping the same same angle be proper honing?

It is a good stone to have as a refresher but the edge has to be shave ready. It is a finishing stone.

I always recommend the norton 4000/8000 as the first hone as it can do more. 9 times outta 10 you'll wanna do more with honing soon anyway. That stone can set bevel and refine to shave ready .

Originally Posted by Dieseld

Wouldn't keeping the same same angle be proper honing?

Yes, but not keeping the same angle will not "damage your edge."

If you hone with tape when the previous honer did not, a microbevel initially will be formed and with time and more subsequent honing that microbevel will extend farther from the edge until it fully replaces the old bevel angle.

If you hone without tape when the previous honer did use tape, a bevel will form at the shoulder of the bevel--opposite from the edge. Initially the edge will not make contact with the hone at all. With more honing the new bevel will widen until it reaches all the way to the edge.

In either case, it does not take very much honing to transition from one angle to the other. In my opinion neither will harm the edge. Worst case scenario, as in the second example above, it will not affect the edge.

Being very new to honing i do agree with Utopian. Just think about it. The angle and the thickness of the metal. 10k would be a nice stone for refinishing. But what do i know.

Thanks for the reply and explanation. It is much appreciated

I have used the Naniwa Super Stone 10K (which is basicly the same as Specialty Stone, or am I wrong) for a few years. It is a good stone, and you can use it as a finnisher/touch up stone. I do sometimes use another stone after the 10k, but it is not necessary.

I lerned to hone on my Naniwa SS stones too, and they where good learning stones In my opinion.

So my answer would be that it is a good idea!
If the price isnt too high, but we are not really allowed to discuss that here.

If you eventually want to learn to hone, I would recomend bying a combo stone, with 10K on one side. That will reduce the total cost of your hone set, because you will need at least 3+ different grit sizes...

Good luck!
Jacke