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03-14-2017, 02:13 AM #1
Complete the progression, a FUN exercise!:)
hello Folks! me again with a question about progressions and hones and where to grow, and next steps... this time in an ingenious fun way to extract the knoweledge our of your brains!! ...
Imagine you have a 1k Chosera, Nortron combo 4K/8K, 12K Naniwa SS, and Suehiro Gokumyo 20K... say you want to replace the 4/8K Norton with any 1, 2 or 3, or even 4 stones....
here's the FUN part... you get to fill the blank line with the progression you want (yeah of course i will take your advise even when i already kind of have some on my mind)
maybe we should limit this to Synthetic stones only just for the kicks
so.. the magic progression for you would be (copy and paste and ill the blank with your config in your reply):
Naniwa Chosera 1k, ________,_________,____________, Naniwa SS 12K, Suehiro Gokumyo 20K
here are some examples:
Chosera 1k, Nani SS 3K, Nani SS 8K ,Nani SS 12K, SG 20K
Chosera 1k, Chosera 3k, Nani SS 3K, Nani SS 8k ,Nani SS 12K, SG 20K
Chosera 1k, Chosera 3k, Chosera 5k, Nani SS 8k ,Nani SS 12K, SG 20K
Chosera 1k, Chosera 3K, Nani SS 3K, Nani SS 8K ,Nani SS 12K, SG 20K
Chosera 1k, Nani SS 3K, Nani SS 5K, Nani SS 8K ,Nani SS 12K, SG 20K
of course we are looking for Speed on bevel set + good feedback + consistency on the scratch patterns and also that you can easily reduce the scratches from the previous stone with the next one...
if you want to comment on the reasons behind your choice, you get extra points
ready..... and GO!honing my mind...
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03-14-2017, 02:35 AM #2
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Thanked: 3795Naniwa Chosera 1k, Naniwa Pro 2k, Naniwa Pro 5k, Naniwa SS 8k, Naniwa SS 12K, Suehiro Gokumyo 20K
I prefer a lower jump from the 1k, so I'm always going to follow with a 2k. The Chosera/Pro is just plain nicer than the SS5k, though both are great. The SS8k fits best between the 5k and the 12k.
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03-14-2017, 02:35 AM #3
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Thanked: 4828It kind of depends on your skill level a little. Some one new to honing would get better or faster results going 1K 3k 8K 12 K buT someone with more experience would likely find the route easier to go 1K 5K 8K 12k. On my next hone purchase I intend to go with Naniwa 5K and an 8K to replace my Norton 4/8
It's not what you know, it's who you take fishing!
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03-14-2017, 03:10 AM #4
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Thanked: 481Were I to go with the Naniwa line, this is along the lines of what I'd choose. Probably go Chosera 1K, SS 2K & 5K, then 12K. Seems to me the 8K would almost* be redundant. Or at least an easy stone to skip. I suppose it's the same operating theory as RezDog skipping the 2K or 3K and going straight to 5K, just on the other end of the spectrum.
Edit - the reason I'd go with SS instead of Chosera/Pro - the potential for crazing (at least as I understand it) is lower with SS. It would drive me nuts to have that happen, even if it is just a visual thing and not something that negatively impacts honing. And they're cheaper too, so that's a (small) tick in their favor.Last edited by Marshal; 03-14-2017 at 03:18 AM.
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03-14-2017, 03:33 AM #5
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Thanked: 3795I really like the SuperStones. I like the Pros a little better. They don't load up like the SuperStones do so they are a little faster.
And yes, the 8k almost is redundant. You can go from 5k to 12k. This is a case of do as I say, not as I do, because I prefer the smallest possible jumps.
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03-14-2017, 04:19 AM #6
Chosera 1k, Nani SS 3K, Nani SS 5K, Nani SS 8K, Nani SS 12K, SG 20K...mainly because I already have the full progression of Naniwa SS and have no experience with the Chosera/Pros. A wise man once talked me out of jumping further into HAD and buying Choseras. My hones are not earning me income and what I have gets the job done well, especially given that they are better suited for a beginner. (I was also similarly convinced not to buy Shaptons, a coticule, and Jnats.)
--Mark
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03-14-2017, 05:30 AM #7
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Thanked: 25911k Chosera, 5k Spaton Pro, 8k Shapton Pro, 12k Super stone(I use 10k instead) , 20k
Stefan
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03-14-2017, 06:15 AM #8
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Thanked: 104Like Utopian I like less in between hones in the beginnings, and like speedster I don't hone for cash. I have used for the last 18 months the following. Chosera 1k, Naniwa SS 2K, 3k, 5k,8k, 10k, then to the Suehiro Gokumyo 20k. I also have a Naniwa 4k lobster brand deluxe stone, that's several years old. It's 210x 25 x 75 and is brown in colour. It used to be my second stone up from a 1k king, until it was virtually retired with the acquisition of the superstones. Many will say the SS 2k is not needed but it removes the Chosera 1k stria very well, and it's cheap, so I'm happy with that progression.
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03-14-2017, 08:22 AM #9
Well, I guess I can't play because the only hones I have of the ones listed are the Chosera 1k and the Norton 4k/8k. I do have a Coticule, Chinese 12k, the Naniwa Green Brick, King 1k/6k, Norton 220/1k and the Welsh Slate Dragon Tongue & Yellow Lake.
So, since I can't play the game my progression is my secret.......he! he!"If You Knew Half of What I Forgot You Would Be An Idiot" - by DoughBoy68
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03-15-2017, 03:27 AM #10
awesome! thanks for the replies!! i hope there are stil lsome more folks willing to give their inputs
honing my mind...